Contaminated diesel?
Discussion
Eleven said:
I filled up from empty with diesel last night (TDV8 Range Rover) at a smallish local garage. Today the car is running lumpy at idle. Coincidence or dirty fuel?
Aside from taking it into the dealers, are there any indicators that would suggest one or the other?
Many thanks.
Any lights on on the dash? When did it last have a service/filter change? Common rail engines really do not like dirty fuel, but should have pretty good filtration and sensors to tell you something is wrong before it gets expensive. It might be a sensor not directly related to fuel. Aside from taking it into the dealers, are there any indicators that would suggest one or the other?
Many thanks.
Willy Nilly said:
Eleven said:
I filled up from empty with diesel last night (TDV8 Range Rover) at a smallish local garage. Today the car is running lumpy at idle. Coincidence or dirty fuel?
Aside from taking it into the dealers, are there any indicators that would suggest one or the other?
Many thanks.
Any lights on on the dash? When did it last have a service/filter change? Common rail engines really do not like dirty fuel, but should have pretty good filtration and sensors to tell you something is wrong before it gets expensive. It might be a sensor not directly related to fuel. Aside from taking it into the dealers, are there any indicators that would suggest one or the other?
Many thanks.
Knowing that your fuel tank is HUGE, might be worth finding a fuel treatment. You'll want something that specifically removes water. Rhino Diesel also does this and is well recomended, but I'm not aware of it being easily available.
http://www.valvoline.com/products/consumer-product...
http://www.valvoline.com/products/consumer-product...
Question:-
Why do you jump straight to the conclusion that filling up your car yesterday had an effect on the car today. Could be absolutely anything.........
Solution:- take it to a franchised dealer, get your leg lifted about the problem and pay through the nose...
Or
Take it to an independent specialist who WILL value your custom and genuinely look after you.
Why do you jump straight to the conclusion that filling up your car yesterday had an effect on the car today. Could be absolutely anything.........
Solution:- take it to a franchised dealer, get your leg lifted about the problem and pay through the nose...
Or
Take it to an independent specialist who WILL value your custom and genuinely look after you.
pork911 said:
datum77 said:
Take it to an independent specialist who WILL value your custom and genuinely look after you.
huh?https://translate.google.co.uk/#auto/ro/Take%20it%...
datum77 said:
Question:-
Why do you jump straight to the conclusion that filling up your car yesterday had an effect on the car today. Could be absolutely anything.........
Solution:- take it to a franchised dealer, get your leg lifted about the problem and pay through the nose...
Or
Take it to an independent specialist who WILL value your custom and genuinely look after you.
I am not sure of what relevance any of this is. However, the last time I used an independent LR specialist they left the old parts on top the engine and oil everywhere. The car came back grubby and with a ding on the bumper.Why do you jump straight to the conclusion that filling up your car yesterday had an effect on the car today. Could be absolutely anything.........
Solution:- take it to a franchised dealer, get your leg lifted about the problem and pay through the nose...
Or
Take it to an independent specialist who WILL value your custom and genuinely look after you.
The last few times I have used the local main dealer they've done a good job and a fair bit of stuff for free that should be chargeable.
TREMAiNE said:
Its possible that the site you filled up at had taken a delivery of un-additised diesel (aka red derv) which isn't really meant for public use but for agricultural vehicles and such.
That's quite a random conclusion to come to, but aside from that, how would red diesel leave it running rough?Evanivitch said:
Knowing that your fuel tank is HUGE, might be worth finding a fuel treatment. You'll want something that specifically removes water. Rhino Diesel also does this and is well recomended, but I'm not aware of it being easily available.
http://www.valvoline.com/products/consumer-product...
Interesting, how does that work? Assuming it can separate the water from the fuel solution, how do you get it out of the tank?http://www.valvoline.com/products/consumer-product...
SMcP114 said:
TREMAiNE said:
Its possible that the site you filled up at had taken a delivery of un-additised diesel (aka red derv) which isn't really meant for public use but for agricultural vehicles and such.
That's quite a random conclusion to come to, but aside from that, how would red diesel leave it running rough?Its nasty stuff and it can't bee too good for an engine... Its like cars that require Super Unleaded, constantly putting in regular can cause issues over time, by putting red derv into an engine designed to use proper additised fuel could cause similar issues, not necessarily permanent ones though.
I don't know what/how - but I'd imagine its possible.
datum77 said:
Solution:- take it to a franchised dealer, get your leg lifted about the problem and pay through the nose...
Or
Take it to an independent specialist who WILL value your custom and genuinely look after you.
Nice to see that your hobby horse is still getting a regular ride around.Or
Take it to an independent specialist who WILL value your custom and genuinely look after you.
TREMAiNE said:
Red derv going into normal tanks and sold to the public is surprisingly common...
Its nasty stuff and it can't bee too good for an engine... Its like cars that require Super Unleaded, constantly putting in regular can cause issues over time, by putting red derv into an engine designed to use proper additised fuel could cause similar issues, not necessarily permanent ones though.
I don't know what/how - but I'd imagine its possible.
Apart from this being quite unlikely, red these days is just ULSD road fuel with dye added, complete with the 5% bio or whatever it is that the green idiots have forced upon us.Its nasty stuff and it can't bee too good for an engine... Its like cars that require Super Unleaded, constantly putting in regular can cause issues over time, by putting red derv into an engine designed to use proper additised fuel could cause similar issues, not necessarily permanent ones though.
I don't know what/how - but I'd imagine its possible.
TREMAiNE said:
Red derv going into normal tanks and sold to the public is surprisingly common...
Its nasty stuff and it can't bee too good for an engine... Its like cars that require Super Unleaded, constantly putting in regular can cause issues over time, by putting red derv into an engine designed to use proper additised fuel could cause similar issues, not necessarily permanent ones though.
I don't know what/how - but I'd imagine its possible.
YeahIts nasty stuff and it can't bee too good for an engine... Its like cars that require Super Unleaded, constantly putting in regular can cause issues over time, by putting red derv into an engine designed to use proper additised fuel could cause similar issues, not necessarily permanent ones though.
I don't know what/how - but I'd imagine its possible.
as red diesel is used exclusively in 30 year old mechanical injection diesels so they can add anything into it
I must ask what the local farmer what he runs his common rail 300BHP £100K fully electronic controlled tractor on
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