Engine Transplants
Engine Transplants
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UpTheIron

Original Poster:

4,046 posts

284 months

Tuesday 11th January 2005
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My intention is not for this to be a S6-bashing thread...

Has anyone attempted any kind of engine transplant for a Tuscan?

We have the LS6 going into various Chimaeras and so on.

I have heard of M3 engines going into Cerbera's...given the S6 problems I would be interested if anybody had considered one in a Tuscan.

Would it fit?

Graham66

850 posts

300 months

Tuesday 11th January 2005
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The main problem in the Tuscan engine bay is that the Speed Siz engine is installed tilted over, and so there is not much room for any other engine

although having said that, I don't know anyone who has actually measured it all up, this is all based on an initial look and guess

i always said the LS engine in a Tuscan would be a great car, just never had the cash/desire/time/ability to do it!!

Graham

UpTheIron

Original Poster:

4,046 posts

284 months

Tuesday 11th January 2005
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I can't see a V8 fitting, but there must be a straight 6 out there that might fit - something from BMW's M3 or old M5 range?

Any other thoughts?

albundy

71 posts

262 months

Tuesday 11th January 2005
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Transplant???!!!!! I wouldn't have entertained buying a TVR unless they produced their own engine(s). If you don't , you are just another UK kit car manufacturer e.g. Lotus, Noble, Caterham, Westfield, Ginetta etc etc

J_S_G

6,177 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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albundy said:
Transplant???!!!!! I wouldn't have entertained buying a TVR unless they produced their own engine(s). If you don't , you are just another UK kit car manufacturer e.g. Lotus, Noble, Caterham, Westfield, Ginetta etc etc

Who cares who manufactures an engine? It's either a good engine or a bad engine, based on whether the character suits the car, the weight has a negative effects on the handling, and the performance & reliability. The badge on the top of the block doesn't alter how good the car is.

Being a "kit car manfucturer" has a lot more to it than where the engine comes from. It's about consistency, warranty, customer support, dealers, etc. Oh, yeah, and whether the car's available in kit form.

The world's going the way of a load of well developed basic engine blocks (given the conglomerates that make up the motor industry), and I think that's a good thing. Still plenty of scope for tuning and customisation, but proven, reliable, cheap blocks with an limitless supply of parts and support. That's not to say a good, independently designed engine can't be produced. Just that it realistically makes it harder to compete for the same price.

pdaccus

59 posts

299 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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M3 engine would be fine if you want to drop 40bhp and 60lbft of torque.

I would save your money and the performance

anonymous-user

70 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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albundy said:
Transplant???!!!!! I wouldn't have entertained buying a TVR unless they produced their own engine(s). If you don't , you are just another UK kit car manufacturer e.g. Lotus, Noble, Caterham, Westfield, Ginetta etc etc





Quite right.

The Speed 6 is why I bought my Tuscan. And why I've ordered another.

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

275 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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albundy said:
Transplant???!!!!! I wouldn't have entertained buying a TVR unless they produced their own engine(s). If you don't , you are just another UK kit car manufacturer e.g. Lotus, Noble, Caterham, Westfield, Ginetta etc etc


A TVR driver calling Lotus a kit car manufacturer? They have type approved cars, unlike TVR, they have also got their cars approved for sale in the us, not a trivial thing and hardly kit carish.

What about Zonda - they use a merc engine, the AM vanquish engine is derived from 2 mondeo engines, maserati use a block designed by ferrari, BMW use a chrysler engine in the mini, Ascari has the old M5 engine. It is the manufacture of the speed six being outsourced to cadburys that puts me off owning a T350, they look great but that engine is a timebomb and not a risk I am prepared to take.

anonymous-user

70 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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m12_nathan said:

It is the manufacture of the speed six being outsourced to cadburys that puts me off owning a T350, they look great but that engine is a timebomb and not a risk I am prepared to take.


:yawn:

lady topaz

3,855 posts

270 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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unrepentant said:

m12_nathan said:

It is the manufacture of the speed six being outsourced to cadburys that puts me off owning a T350, they look great but that engine is a timebomb and not a risk I am prepared to take.



:yawn:


Waiting for response before sharpening nails to dive in with defence mode fully charged

PatHeald

8,058 posts

272 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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lady topaz said:

unrepentant said:


m12_nathan said:

It is the manufacture of the speed six being outsourced to cadburys that puts me off owning a T350, they look great but that engine is a timebomb and not a risk I am prepared to take.




:yawn:



Waiting for response before sharpening nails to dive in with defence mode fully charged
Before you jump in, remember......

Mirror, signal, manoeuvre.

Hmmm...

Better get TVR to fix the mirror and the indicators, then....

Cheers

Pat

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

275 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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lady topaz said:

unrepentant said:


m12_nathan said:

It is the manufacture of the speed six being outsourced to cadburys that puts me off owning a T350, they look great but that engine is a timebomb and not a risk I am prepared to take.




:yawn:



Waiting for response before sharpening nails to dive in with defence mode fully charged


lol, look forward to some figures disputing the now infamous poll, next you'll be telling me the people in the "how many miles has your done" thread are all lying

guitarman

112 posts

259 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Here we go again.

If you need TVR to use their own engines in order to justify to yourself that you haven't bought a kit car, that is just very, very sad.

When TVR get approval to sell in the USA then you can start bashing Lotus.

I wouldn't call TVR's kit cars, but a kit car with its own engine would still be a kit car!

Get real!

lady topaz

3,855 posts

270 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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As usual didnt see many actual SP6 owners contributing. Getting used to it now !! Yawn

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

275 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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lady topaz said:
As usual didnt see many actual SP6 owners contributing. Getting used to it now !! Yawn


Was that it? I have to admit I was expecting more from someone with sharp nails and a fully charged defence mode How disapointing.

lady topaz

3,855 posts

270 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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What do you expect from someone who has driven a SP6 in anger but with respect for 2 and a half years with no engine probs, but has sympathy with those that have had. I love my car and nothing on here based on heresay will alter my opinion. Now done over 19000 SP6 wonderful miles. Yes niggles, which I have had a go at, but nothing to deter me from Tusc ownership. If and when that occurs I will again openly state my probs, but will never derogorate a car that has fullfilled my expectations a thousandfold.
I Love My Car

chris watton

22,544 posts

276 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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lady topaz said:
What do you expect from someone who has driven a SP6 in anger but with respect for 2 and a half years with no engine probs, but has sympathy with those that have had. I love my car and nothing on here based on heresay will alter my opinion. Now done over 19000 SP6 wonderful miles. Yes niggles, which I have had a go at, but nothing to deter me from Tusc ownership. If and when that occurs I will again openly state my probs, but will never derogorate a car that has fullfilled my expectations a thousandfold.
I Love My Car


, seconded, what I will never understand is why do people who drive cars other than TVR, or, ndeed never actually owned a S6 feel they have to slag it off!!! Do we ever go on the other forums and do the same??? I think not,, not exactly sure of the point they try to make, when we know exactly what we're dealing with anyway!!!

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

275 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Much more like it, far better than a yawn []

chris watton

22,544 posts

276 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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m12_nathan said:
Much more like it, far better than a yawn []

lol,, thought that'll please you nath

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

275 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Anyway, the original point was a TVR owner calling a Lotus a kitcar which was unfair, let's not get sidetracked by the sp6 issue.