Which option makes more sense?
Which option makes more sense?
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swakelin91

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118 posts

188 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Hi all,

I'm currently looking to buy a new car, I have created a list of potential cars. Some of the cars would be second hand, whereas others would be brand new (almost).

If I was to buy a second hand car I would have around £15,000 to spend and would be able to pay cash. The other option would be to buy a new car on PCP/other finance route with a decent deposit, realistically the value of the car could be in and around £30,000.

I have had my current car (Fiesta Zetec S) for 7 years, for the first 6 of those years it was hugely reliable and I enjoyed driving it. During the last year or so it has had many problems and it just feels like time to finally change.

Either option leaves me with plenty of potential cars, that's not the issue, in fact having that many options is amazing and I have done my fair share of research, albeit not coming to a comprehensive decision.

I don't really have specific needs in a car, I only do 8000 miles per year and my journey to work is a mix of dual carriageway and twisty country roads. Insurance isn't an issue.

My head keeps telling me to get something like a new Golf R but it could be a little boring, the safe option. At 23 this is probably the time to get something a little more special.

Defcon5

6,477 posts

222 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Is 2 seats ok?

anonymous-user

85 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Since when did 23yo people drive 30k cars? I must be too old and out of touch! smile

If you don't already have one, get some property. The novelty of shiny new cars soon wears off. This is a fact.


swakelin91

Original Poster:

118 posts

188 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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2 seats would be fine, open to any suggestions.

I have looked at a Porsche Cayman and Nissan 370Z already and liked both.

swakelin91

Original Poster:

118 posts

188 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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wormus said:
Since when did 23yo people drive 30k cars? I must be to old and out of touch! smile

If you don't already have one, get some property. The novelty of shiny new cars soon wears off. This is a fact.
23 year olds that have good jobs and have saved a fair chunk of money.

The property point is obviously valid, and is something to consider however I can continue to save for a house whilst also being able to buy a better car.

anonymous-user

85 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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swakelin91 said:
23 year olds that have good jobs and have saved a fair chunk of money.

The property point is obviously valid, and is something to consider however I can continue to save for a house whilst also being able to buy a better car.
Good for you. How about a Monaro?

DrDeAtH

3,703 posts

263 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Spend less on the car, buy something used and avoid a PCP/lease. If you have 15k saved, spend up to that. No point lining a finance companies pockets....

DanGPR

991 posts

202 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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I'm 23, currently have an M135i, regret it. Previous cars were 350z/Clio 200 etc.

In your situation, which I was and what I wish I did myself was buy A decent E46 M3 CS/E90 M3 with the cash you have and don't owe out on anything. If you want 2 seats then perhaps a Cayman/Elise/Z4M coupe have good chance of keeping decent residuals whilst also being nice to drive and be seen in.

Defcon5

6,477 posts

222 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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wormus said:
Good for you. How about a Monaro?
That did cross my mind, but then I thought it was too sensible. VX220 turbo? Wouldn't even need all of your 15k

Benjy911

578 posts

177 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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I was in the same position and bought an Audi S3, I wouldn't go down the finance route when you've got 15k to play with.

swakelin91

Original Poster:

118 posts

188 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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I think as many of you have suggested, the second hand route is the better option.

One of the reasons I was drawn to a new car was the reliability aspect and warranty that comes with it. May just be a case of getting warranty on a used car for the extra peace of mind.

The E90 M3 is a great shout, something I hadn't considered.

I'm not so keen on the Monaro, or VX220 though.

Tickle

6,512 posts

235 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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You sound like you've got your head screwed on O/P for someone at 23, good for you.

What about a car that is pretty depreciation proof?

BMW M-Coupe
Elise/Exige
Clio V6

Sure there are plenty more....

aspirated

2,540 posts

177 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Supercharged VXR8, that's where my money would go

swakelin91

Original Poster:

118 posts

188 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Tickle said:
You sound like you've got your head screwed on O/P for someone at 23, good for you.

What about a car that is pretty depreciation proof?

BMW M-Coupe
Elise/Exige
Clio V6

Sure there are plenty more....
I love the Elise, I always have, I'm just not sure I could live with it everyday. I see it as more of a weekend/second car.

Anything that would be depreciation proof would be great, although I would imagine I would keep the car for 5 years or so leaving it hard to predict sell on values.

chrisb92

1,051 posts

155 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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DanGPR said:
I'm 23, currently have an M135i, regret it. Previous cars were 350z/Clio 200 etc.

In your situation, which I was and what I wish I did myself was buy A decent E46 M3 CS/E90 M3 with the cash you have and don't owe out on anything. If you want 2 seats then perhaps a Cayman/Elise/Z4M coupe have good chance of keeping decent residuals whilst also being nice to drive and be seen in.
I agree with what Dan said. I financed a mk6 golf, whereas I wish I had just bought a mk5 and not been forking out each month for PCP!!

I wish I could be putting more away for a house. Oh well!

swakelin91

Original Poster:

118 posts

188 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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chrisb92 said:
DanGPR said:
I'm 23, currently have an M135i, regret it. Previous cars were 350z/Clio 200 etc.

In your situation, which I was and what I wish I did myself was buy A decent E46 M3 CS/E90 M3 with the cash you have and don't owe out on anything. If you want 2 seats then perhaps a Cayman/Elise/Z4M coupe have good chance of keeping decent residuals whilst also being nice to drive and be seen in.
I agree with what Dan said. I financed a mk6 golf, whereas I wish I had just bought a mk5 and not been forking out each month for PCP!!

I wish I could be putting more away for a house. Oh well!
You are right, I don't really want to be tied into something for 3 or 4 years at the moment. A friend of mine has just bought a new 2 series on PCP, whilst he is over the moon at the moment, I think that feeling may hit a brick wall soon.

Current options seem to be:

E90 M3
Cayman
370Z

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

249 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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wormus said:
Since when did 23yo people drive 30k cars? I must be too old and out of touch! smile

If you don't already have one, get some property. The novelty of shiny new cars soon wears off. This is a fact.
But it doesn't, least not for me. I have owned my Mustang for nearly six years and it is as much a novelty as it was the day I bought it, it is daily driven too, not locked up only for nice days.

swakelin91

Original Poster:

118 posts

188 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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Can anyone offer an insight into ownership of a Porsche Cayman?

Which engine is best?

What is it like to live with day to day?

I'm not too concerned about driving costs, however it would be good to know more in depth what I could be getting myself into.