Difficult phone call...
Difficult phone call...
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titiany

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2,122 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Gents and Gentesses,

I have to make a phone call today. One of THOSE phone calls. One you get half way through dialling the number and hang up, several times in a row, before finally taking a deep breath and making it all the way to the ringtone - thus there being NO GOING BACK!

Actually, it's not that bad, but I could do with some advice. I am calling an editor of a magazine today (genre not important to disclose) to convince him that he wants to give me some freelance work. This would be fine except I have nothing more than a general knowledge of the subject in question, and a pathetic amount of writing experience he wouldn't give a crap about.

I'm after experience rather than money and so therefore am offering nothing more than cheap labour and enthusiasm. (i.e. £100 per thousand words).

So in short, I have to 'sell myself' to someone - something I have never done before, and I am particularly shy about this sort of thing. I want to chicken out, but this is something I really want to do.

Any tips?
x

jimothy

5,151 posts

259 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Perhaps it would be better to sell in writing first, knock something up to show you have talent. If you think about other selling, a glossy brochure and a free sample works better than a cold call...

A friend of mines just got a job as a journalist after being made redundant as an IT project manager. No experience but they liked the article she had to write to acompany her application.

titiany

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2,122 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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well i'm following up a letter sent last week, and I will threaten to include cuttings of news writing I've done. But it is not relevant to the topic.

I have got a list of great feature ideas. Perhaps writing a specific article would help. I guess it shows I'm serious.

popov123

4,084 posts

257 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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I think making the call and showing that you have taken interest in the work they already do and want to be a part of it will do you no harm!

If you can manage to massage the ego of the call recipient a little that may well pave the way for a 'face to face' meeting, or them being more accepting of a trial article etc from you.

You have nothing to lose!!!

Good luck! Let us know how it goes!

Maycott

586 posts

272 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Try and identify the questions you think you might be asked and draft a response on paper before you make the call.

Think about the tone you want to strike as much as the content.

Don't give yourself a script, but make sure that before you begin the call you know what you want to get out of it.

A friend of mine has a little trick for overcoming objections. He always starts a response with 'I'm glad you said that'..... it gives him time to think and also presents an argument within an agreement frame, making buy in from the other side much more likely.

Good luck, and let us know how you get on.

sparkythecat

8,059 posts

277 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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titiany said:


I'm after experience rather than money and so therefore am offering nothing more than cheap labour and enthusiasm. (i.e. £100 per thousand words).



£100 for 1000 words and that's cheap

That makes your posting worth about £18.

Time to consider a career change methinks

titiany

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2,122 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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my old editor paid contributors £245 per thousand. Freelancers in the US can get paid a dollar a word.

It's good money, but you usually have to become an expert in the appropriate field first. Also it is not a reliable source of income - unless you really work at it.

titiany

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2,122 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Actually i just realised - had I been paid to do my dissertation at uni, I would be £1,400 richer.

vixpy1

42,697 posts

286 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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titiany said:
I am calling an editor of a magazine today (genre not important to disclose)



If its a car mag, consider this a marrige proposal!

Its its Lefties Sociopathic rob from the rich, give to the poor monthly..

No way!

>> Edited by vixpy1 on Wednesday 12th January 11:09

RossMac

856 posts

263 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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titiany said:
Gents and Gentesses,

I am calling an editor of a magazine today (genre not important to disclose)


Razzle?

titiany

Original Poster:

2,122 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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RossMac said:

titiany said:
Gents and Gentesses,

I am calling an editor of a magazine today (genre not important to disclose)



Razzle?


er... i think i'm too innocent to know what that is!?!

MilnerR

8,273 posts

280 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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titiany said:

RossMac said:


titiany said:
Gents and Gentesses,

I am calling an editor of a magazine today (genre not important to disclose)




Razzle?



er... i think i'm too innocent to know what that is!?!



www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=148430&f=141&h=0

titiany

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2,122 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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hmm - must have missed that bit of the thread. Although I can assure you guys it involves neither sex nor socialism!

lotuslad

5,253 posts

276 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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I may be able to help as I'm the sort of person you'll be calling.

You could try bluffing it - introduce yourself as a freelance, tell the ed what stories you have, and ask is if he/she wants them.
Or be honest and you may be given a trial story.

Good luck - I'm too much of a coward to go freelance!

Oh, and sound confident

Incidentally if it's any comfort to you, most freelancers can't write for toffee. In fact lots of articles are drivel until they've been subbed twice.

titiany

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254 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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lotuslad said:

You could try bluffing it - introduce yourself as a freelance, tell the ed what stories you have, and ask is if he/she wants them.


Could do but the industry is very close knit and I think everyone knows everyone!

Thanks for your advice - you have reminded me that the guy is only a human being and not an ogre!

>> Edited by titiany on Wednesday 12th January 12:08

>> Edited by titiany on Wednesday 12th January 12:08

titiany

Original Poster:

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254 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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well i made the call and it was extremely positive.

He wants to know more. Feature ideas here we come!

Thanks for your advice all. x

wedg1e

27,003 posts

287 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Hmmmm... if I could get paid for the bool-locks that I write on here, I'd be RICH! RICH beyond my WILDEST DREAMS!!! MuahahahahahahahHAAAAAAA.....

Disillusioned of Teesside.