What camera for someone that doesn't want a D-SLR?
What camera for someone that doesn't want a D-SLR?
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Rosscow

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9,534 posts

187 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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Afternoon all,

I'm after upgrading my old Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ50 which I have had for nearly 8 years.

If I'm honest, I don't know what I want. What I do know, is that I want something that does more than point and shoot. I enjoy taking pictures of my family, the dog and landscapes.

I've seen several that look lovely, but would appreciate anyone with more 'know-how' to help me choose!

Ones that I like the look of:

Panasonic DMC-LX100 (£569 with cash back offer is the top of my budget, only 3.1x optical zoom)
Panasonic DMC-TZ70 (£349 so much cheaper, better zoom with 30x but picture quality not as good)
Panasonic DMC-FZ1000EB (£599 with cash back offer is top of my budget, good 16x zoom, but large)
Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 (MkI @ £269 seems great value, up to the Mk III @ £569, only 3.6x zoom)

I love the look of the LX100, but as with the RX100-III nearly £600 on a compact camera seems an awful lot of money.

I think the FZ1000EB is too big. Like my old FZ50, I love it but ultimately it's not something I want to lug around on the off chance I'll take a picture. I play a lot of golf and see some wonderful landscapes so I would like something I can put in my golf bag easily.

This seems to be boiling down to if I want a big zoom or not. The new DMC-TZ70 seems to be ticking a lot of boxes, but the LX100 and the RX100 look so damn good!!

Please help! Thanks smile


DavidY

4,492 posts

308 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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Keep your existing Panasonic for when you really need that super zoom

Buy something like the Sony RX100 (I,II,III), or Fuji X10,X20,X30 etc for putting in your golf bag. You don't need the super zoom for those landscape shots, instead go for something that will give you a quality image. They will all be fine for those family shots, dog shots, etc as well.


superpippo

202 posts

226 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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I like DSLRs but when I need something more compact I bring this one with me. I love it (albeit I have the older model from four years ago but still going strong).

http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-Coolpix-Digital-Camera...

Rosscow

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9,534 posts

187 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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DavidY said:
Keep your existing Panasonic for when you really need that super zoom

Buy something like the Sony RX100 (I,II,III), or Fuji X10,X20,X30 etc for putting in your golf bag. You don't need the super zoom for those landscape shots, instead go for something that will give you a quality image. They will all be fine for those family shots, dog shots, etc as well.
I think I agree with the zoom - it's just not important enough for me.

Used to love Fuji (spent loads of money back in 2003 on a Fujifilm FinePix F610!).

However, the Fuji's aren't really floating my boat at the moment.

I keep coming back to the Panny - the LX100 just looks the business.

And I have large hands, the extra bulk is appealing to me....



Edited by Rosscow on Monday 16th February 16:34

marctwo

3,666 posts

284 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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Superzooms are generally rubbish.

I think the RX-100 or LX-100 are your best bet. Unless you want something with interchangeable lenses like the Panasonic GM5?

Mr Will

13,719 posts

230 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Rosscow said:
I think I agree with the zoom - it's just not important enough for me.

Used to love Fuji (spent loads of money back in 2003 on a Fujifilm FinePix F610!).

However, the Fuji's aren't really floating my boat at the moment.

I keep coming back to the Panny - the LX100 just looks the business.

And I have large hands, the extra bulk is appealing to me....

I've played with one quite a lot and it's a really great camera. It's really well built, user friendly and takes great pictures.

The biggest problem in my eyes is the size - it's just a bit too big to go in a pocket. If you are going to get something that needs a strap or bag then there are a whole host of options that are only fractionally larger and are often better, cheaper or both.

Rosscow

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9,534 posts

187 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Will the LX100 be as user friendly as the RX100 Mk3?

For example, I've often toyed with getting a D-SLR or something like the LX100 but then I've just been lazy and bought general P&S cameras.

I get the feeling that if I get the RX100, because it doesn't have as many manual controls, that I'll be lazy and leave it in iA modes most of the time. With the LX100, due to how easily accessible the manual controls are, I'm presuming that I'll be more likely to use it 'properly'. Does that make sense?


rottie102

4,033 posts

208 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Rosscow said:
Will the LX100 be as user friendly as the RX100 Mk3?

For example, I've often toyed with getting a D-SLR or something like the LX100 but then I've just been lazy and bought general P&S cameras.

I get the feeling that if I get the RX100, because it doesn't have as many manual controls, that I'll be lazy and leave it in iA modes most of the time. With the LX100, due to how easily accessible the manual controls are, I'm presuming that I'll be more likely to use it 'properly'. Does that make sense?
Make sure to also check out Canon G7X

Rosscow

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9,534 posts

187 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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I seem to now be looking at the small changeable lens cameras.

Seem to be some excellent package deals with 2 lenses:

Sony A6000 £599: http://www.digitalrev.com/product/sony-alpha-a6000...

Aony A5100 £529: http://www.digitalrev.com/product/sony-alpha-a5100...

Any thoughts on these?

DavidY

4,492 posts

308 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Have a look at the Fuji's as well, some good cashback offers at the moment

X-E2 and 18-55 lens

dugsud

1,125 posts

287 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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I've recently bought a Samsung NX3000 and I'm pretty impressed....nice little camera if you can live without a viewfinder. Particularly impressive in low light.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/cameras/digital-camer...



Edited by dugsud on Tuesday 17th February 11:32

Mr Will

13,719 posts

230 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Rosscow said:
I seem to now be looking at the small changeable lens cameras.

Seem to be some excellent package deals with 2 lenses:

Sony A6000 £599: http://www.digitalrev.com/product/sony-alpha-a6000...

Aony A5100 £529: http://www.digitalrev.com/product/sony-alpha-a5100...

Any thoughts on these?
Great cameras, but might be worth checking out the A5000 too. It's only just been superseded and there are plenty still in stock for about ~£250: http://www.johnlewis.com/sony-a5000-compact-system...

the-photographer

4,447 posts

200 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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EOS-M if the special offers are still around, or the small sensor LX-7

Rosscow

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187 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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I think I'm pretty sold on the A6000 at the moment!

rich888

2,610 posts

223 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Rosscow said:
I think I'm pretty sold on the A6000 at the moment!
Take a look at the DPREVIEW of the Sony RX100 MK3
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-cybershot-dsc...

and the DPREVIEW of the Sony A6000
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-a6000

I personally have a Sony RX100 MK1 which I'm very pleased with, it's not perfect, but it's a good compromise, and is certainly superior to the Canon S100 which it replaced. A DSLR may well have the edge in terms of image quality, but that is offset by the fact that the DSLR may well be left in the boot of the car instead of in the pocket of my jeans or jacket.

Take a look at the pics posted on here by GetCarter using his RX100 to appreciate just how good the results can be, and I'm damn sure he uses a MK1 RX100.