M135i - future classic?

[corvettedave]

thoughts??

some of my ideas =

very few rwd hot hatch's
mines a manual, which is rarer, double the amount auto versions sold in the uk
bmw seems to be heading into a awd route
cheap initial buying price, which leads to a cheaper car 2nd hand, which makes it more appealing to normal folks

reasons against =

too many made each year?
the whole only half an m car story putting people off

Edited by corvettedave on Monday 16th February 22:45

[rich83]

As likely as a 335d becoming a classic...

[corvettedave]

your thoughts for way not old chap?

[rich83]

Too many of them... not an M car... and I don't think the styling will age well.

[corvettedave]

rich83 said:

Too many of them... not an M car... and I don't think the styling will age well.

that's what i thought, but it was the rwd hot hatch thing?, which made it different, was trying to decide weather to keep it in a shed after iam finished with it

[rich83]

The 1M is where the classic states might reside. Probably more so than any other BMW made in the last few decades.

[Schermerhorn]

If M135i owners are hoping their cars will turn into classics or firm up in value they are going to be waiting a long time. Despite the M badge, no one really sees it as a true M product unfortunately.

[Evolved]

About as likely as the Golf R.

As an aside more though, when it was first launched I found it utterly offensive to look at! Now, I think it's actualy starting to grow on me.

[bennyboysvuk]

corvettedave said:

thoughts??

some of my ideas =

very few rwd hot hatch's
mines a manual, which is rarer, double the amount auto versions sold in the uk
bmw seems to be heading into a awd route
cheap initial buying price, which leads to a cheaper car 2nd hand, which makes it more appealing to normal folks

reasons against =

too many made each year?
the whole only half an m car story putting people off

It's just not hard-core enough. I think that's why it slightly misses the mark. It would be about as classic as a Cavalier SRi, interesting, but not remembered as a true driver's car and values would IMO be similar.

[anonymous-user]

bennyboysvuk said:

corvettedave said:

thoughts??

some of my ideas =

very few rwd hot hatch's
mines a manual, which is rarer, double the amount auto versions sold in the uk
bmw seems to be heading into a awd route
cheap initial buying price, which leads to a cheaper car 2nd hand, which makes it more appealing to normal folks

reasons against =

too many made each year?
the whole only half an m car story putting people off

It's just not hard-core enough. I think that's why it slightly misses the mark. It would be about as classic as a Cavalier SRi, interesting, but not remembered as a true driver's car and values would IMO be similar.

I had a red top c20xe cav gsi and an srr back in the early '90's That engine, aside from its head issues was an absolute belter.

[creepy coupe]

rich83 said:

Too many of them... not an M car... and I don't think the styling will age well.

Ford made a lot more Mk2 Escorts.;)

[Steve Evil]

It will go through phases like almost every other affordable performance car, 205 GTis, Imprezas etc. It will drop down to really affordable levels, then get a reputation for being badly modified and badly driven by the yoof, then the immaculate unmodified examples in 25 years time will be sought after collectibles because of the performance available and guys like me who had one whilst they were still relatively young and have had a succession of more boring choices ever since, want to relive their glory days (oh that is a depressing thought).

[Baz Tench]

Evolved said:

About as likely as the Golf R.

As an aside more though, when it was first launched I found it utterly offensive to look at! Now, I think it's actualy starting to grow on me.

I think the majority of Bangles designs are ahead of their time.

At first, I found them all to be a bit offensive, but they have all grown on me over time (apart from maybe the 7 series). To me, they still look remarkably fresh, and will age well IMO.

[Crusoe]

Will probably go through a long period of dropping into the "chav" boy racer category who will up the boost and thrash them around. A nice standard low mileage one will probably go up in value similar to a 1.9 pug gti or a e30 325i but you will be waiting at least 15 years IMO.

Even then it will be the cheaper choice like a 325i to e30 M3. Values of M coupe/Z4m/E46 M3/E90 M3/ and 1M will start to climb and take the 135i with them a little.

Edited by Crusoe on Tuesday 17th February 09:24

[Baz Tench]

Crusoe said:

Will probably go through a long period of dropping into the "chav" boy racer category who will up the boost and thrash them around. A nice standard low milage one will probably go up in value similar to a 1.9 pug gti or a e30 325i but you will be waiting at least 15 years IMO.

The same thing seems to be happening with nice, original e46 M3s now. Values at least seem to be firming up, after dropping into proper bargain basement territory.

[hornetrider]

Steve Evil said:

It will go through phases like almost every other affordable performance car, 205 GTis, Imprezas etc. It will drop down to really affordable levels, then get a reputation for being badly modified and badly driven by the yoof, then the immaculate unmodified examples in 25 years time will be sought after collectibles because of the performance available and guys like me who had one whilst they were still relatively young and have had a succession of more boring choices ever since, want to relive their glory days (oh that is a depressing thought).

I agree with this in principle. However in the case of really modern cars built in the last 5 years, I think a lot will end up on the scrapper as the highly expensive cost of repairing them when they are 10-15 year old 150k milers will outstrip the value. I'm talking turbos, electronics etc.

[NORTS]

What's it worth? I'm sure there must be a better investment car to put away in a shed for investment. Presumably they are E46 M3 CS money? If so I'd buy one of these instead as already appreciating and will continue.

[swanny71]

130i is a better candidate IMO.
One of the last N/A straight 6 BMW's (and it's an absolute peach), fewer of them made, simpler and therefore easier to keep going cheaply.

[Shaoxter]

You're looking at a loooooong time before cars like these become classics (if they do become classics), like 15-25 years. And during that time it will become a sub £5k car.

It's only really Ferraris, GT Porsches, etc. which stop depreciating and go up in price earlier.

[Crusoe]

Baz Tench said:

The same thing seems to be happening with nice, original e46 M3s now. Values at least seem to be firming up, after dropping into proper bargain basement territory.

Quite an upturn for M coupes even with the s50 engine and Z4m/Z4MCoupes have jumped this year too, dealers down south have been buying forum cars from Scotland recently and marking them up. CSLs still holding strong and M1s don't seem to be dropping, nice E90/92 M3s not really dropped past the £20k barrier either.