First Major service since ownership
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It depends largely on mileage and previous maintenance to be honest. If the previous owner racked up some miles and left items that were advised for later on as they didn't impede his/her enjoyment of the car then there may be some improvement, but general service items wont have a drastic effect (even less so if the car is low mileage). Things like brake fluid which deteriorates over time would only be noticed if the vehicle was pressed into some hard work and the lower boiling point would then maybe lead to brake or clutch system problems. Servicing restores the safety margins.
Expect notes on brake condition, coolant pipes and suspension componentry if the vehicle is used all year round and maybe exhaust fixings (as they are ferrous and don't like the UK climate!!).
The diagnosis system check is the most welcome item; early stages of potential issues can be detected and addressed.
As you are having a spark plug change ask for a boroscope inspection at the same time (with photo evidence) that you can retain with your history file for peace of mind.
Expect notes on brake condition, coolant pipes and suspension componentry if the vehicle is used all year round and maybe exhaust fixings (as they are ferrous and don't like the UK climate!!).
The diagnosis system check is the most welcome item; early stages of potential issues can be detected and addressed.
As you are having a spark plug change ask for a boroscope inspection at the same time (with photo evidence) that you can retain with your history file for peace of mind.
Edited by Pope on Tuesday 17th February 08:02
Pope said:
It depends largely on mileage and previous maintenance to be honest. If the previous owner racked up some miles and left items that were advised for later on as they didn't impede his/her enjoyment of the car then there may be some improvement, but general service items wont have a drastic effect (even less so if the car is low mileage). Things like brake fluid which deteriorates over time would only be noticed if the vehicle was pressed into some hard work and the lower boiling point would then maybe lead to brake or clutch system problems. Servicing restores the safety margins.
Expect notes on brake condition, coolant pipes and suspension componentry if the vehicle is used all year round and maybe exhaust fixings (as they are ferrous and don't like the UK climate!!).
The diagnosis system check is the most welcome item; early stages of potential issues can be detected and addressed.
As you are having a spark plug change ask for a boroscope inspection at the same time (with photo evidence) that you can retain with your history file for peace of mind.
Thanks mate, very helpful. The cars done 48k, last major service was done in 2011 at 35k.Expect notes on brake condition, coolant pipes and suspension componentry if the vehicle is used all year round and maybe exhaust fixings (as they are ferrous and don't like the UK climate!!).
The diagnosis system check is the most welcome item; early stages of potential issues can be detected and addressed.
As you are having a spark plug change ask for a boroscope inspection at the same time (with photo evidence) that you can retain with your history file for peace of mind.
Edited by Pope on Tuesday 17th February 08:02
With regards to a boroscope does a OPC do that free of charge? Or is that too much to ask. Plus if it comes out as positive does that mean that there is very little chance of it happening in the future?
Yellow491 said:
Hi pope
Sorry to change subject a little,can you do a complete brake fluid change on a gen 2rs with the wheels still in place.
Factory time is given wheels fitted; assuming vehicle is already on ramp and other work in progressSorry to change subject a little,can you do a complete brake fluid change on a gen 2rs with the wheels still in place.
47085560 - 58tu Brake fluid replaced (Composite work)
General information: composite job during maintenance
Wheels fitted
manual transmission
Includes:
470107 Brake system bleed
300107 Clutch system bleed
Jonesy997C4S said:
With regards to a boroscope does a OPC do that free of charge? Or is that too much to ask. Plus if it comes out as positive does that mean that there is very little chance of it happening in the future?
While the plugs are out the time required to inspect the bores is minimal, speak to your service advisor and see how they can accomodate; Reading would quote you on their 7+ labour rate (vehicles over 7 yrs old receive a discounted rate) which evens it all out.Bore wear or damage can be cumulative where general wear and tear leads to light marking on the liner or localised and severe due to certain conditions. Any chance to inspect the liners should be welcomed for peace of mind in my opinion.
Sorry pope and interupting op,my question is can the fluid be totaly replaced with wheels on,i had a complete fluid change but the wheels were not removed,unsure how you do this,or if possible.I questioned at the time,as when i do a complete change its out of both sides of the calipers.
Jonesy997C4S said:
Bought my 06 C4S in August and it's going in for a major service, new plugs and brake fluid change next month. Can I expect to feel a difference afterwards?
Not much to add other than they will appear with a list of work that "urgently" needs doing and is not covered by the warranty. It'll be scary stuff too, like shock absorbers and discs. Fortunately you have a Porsche and if it is anything like mine was, they have self-healing discs and shocks, so next time you have a service, they will have repaired themselves. They'll probably want to do a £250 geometry check too, but you'll have to change all of the tyres first otherwise it'll be pointless, or so they'll tell you.
Ooh and an aircon re-gas, you'll def need that, or so they'll tell you.
As for feeling any difference, I doubt you'll notice anything, apart from a much lighter wallet and a slightly confused mind from trying to work out how a £500 service ended up as a £1100 bill.
Yellow491 said:
Sorry pope and interupting op,my question is can the fluid be totaly replaced with wheels on,i had a complete fluid change but the wheels were not removed,unsure how you do this,or if possible.I questioned at the time,as when i do a complete change its out of both sides of the calipers.
With the car on ramp accessing the inner bleed point on the Caliper is possible, the outers are accessed through the wheel spokes. A pressure bleeder is used; where fluid is pushed through the system at 2 bar pressure. The furthest away outer bleed is bled first with > 0.5 litre taken to ensure longest run of the system is purged of old fluid. Furthest away inner next removes the old fluid and any bubbles that may have been created over the service life of the original fluid. Then, working back towards the Master Cylinder outer/inner until the system is flushed and bled. The system holds approx 0.8 litres of fluid depending on spec. A litre of fluid is used in the change. On manual cars the Clutch fluid is changed also (reservoir shared)
On Power Brake cars (964C4/993C4/turbo/RS) the pressure sphere is also bled.
If a car has received work on the hydraulic system (hoses replaced for example) the ABS/PSM system should be bled using the tester - not necessary during normal servicing.
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