Down Under Decisions: Lambo 570-4SL vs Cayman GT4
Discussion
Hi everyone,
I am blessed enough to be in a position to consider a used 2012 17,000km Lambo 570-4 SL E-gear with good history for $280k AUD as my first supercar
(I may have given away that I'm from Australia!)
However... I went to a Porsche dealer to look at a comparable Porsche as when I was young my dream car was going to be a Porsche (seemed more realistic at the time)...
Something came over me and I placed a deposit for a Cayman Gt4!! The dealer told me I am 5th in line (with a 4 car allocation that's already sold). He told me that there is a good chance he could get another 1 or 2 cars (he said they sold 6 GT3s with the initial allocation of again 4 cars so he's hoping for the same). The price of the Cayman GT4 came to 230k AUD as per the yellow car in the brochure minus the roll cage (which I am considering adding for another 10k AUD).
What is everyone's position on the car to get?! The Cayman seems like THE drivers car that wouldn't likely to be repeated; where as the Lambo is well very flashy and loud which a little part of me really wants. (Head vs Heart 1st world problems etc.
)
It is my first big purchase and I am still in my early 30's ... I currently have a Mercedes 250 C-coupe as a daily... but if I get either car I want to be driving it at least 3-4 days a week
What was your first 'supercar' purchase? And what would you choose in my circumstance? I am really excited either way
PS: comparable prices of cars in Australia include 2007 F430 for 220kAUD, 2008 F430 Scuderia for 330kAUD, 997.1 GT3 for 185kAUD or AMG GT-S Edition 1 for close to 300k AUD
PPS: I posted it in the supercar forum to try and not have too much Porsche bias with the current enthusiasm for the GT4 fully in the knowledge that a frankenstein cayman is not a 'supercar'
Thanks for your input!
CheckSix
I am blessed enough to be in a position to consider a used 2012 17,000km Lambo 570-4 SL E-gear with good history for $280k AUD as my first supercar
(I may have given away that I'm from Australia!)
However... I went to a Porsche dealer to look at a comparable Porsche as when I was young my dream car was going to be a Porsche (seemed more realistic at the time)...
Something came over me and I placed a deposit for a Cayman Gt4!! The dealer told me I am 5th in line (with a 4 car allocation that's already sold). He told me that there is a good chance he could get another 1 or 2 cars (he said they sold 6 GT3s with the initial allocation of again 4 cars so he's hoping for the same). The price of the Cayman GT4 came to 230k AUD as per the yellow car in the brochure minus the roll cage (which I am considering adding for another 10k AUD).
What is everyone's position on the car to get?! The Cayman seems like THE drivers car that wouldn't likely to be repeated; where as the Lambo is well very flashy and loud which a little part of me really wants. (Head vs Heart 1st world problems etc.
) It is my first big purchase and I am still in my early 30's ... I currently have a Mercedes 250 C-coupe as a daily... but if I get either car I want to be driving it at least 3-4 days a week
What was your first 'supercar' purchase? And what would you choose in my circumstance? I am really excited either way
PS: comparable prices of cars in Australia include 2007 F430 for 220kAUD, 2008 F430 Scuderia for 330kAUD, 997.1 GT3 for 185kAUD or AMG GT-S Edition 1 for close to 300k AUD
PPS: I posted it in the supercar forum to try and not have too much Porsche bias with the current enthusiasm for the GT4 fully in the knowledge that a frankenstein cayman is not a 'supercar'
Thanks for your input!
CheckSix
Hi, nice position to be in. If it was me I would go for the Lambo part of it being the depreciation the GT4 will suffer and what ever the dealer tells you, it will lose. Besides its one of the best lambo's made.
Your problem is where do you go from the Lambo? (thats easy send it me in Perth)
Your problem is where do you go from the Lambo? (thats easy send it me in Perth)
I don't believe you're comparing like for like, in my mind you're comparing a SPORTScar (Cayman) against a SUPERcar (570).
It doesn't sound like you need to worry about depreciation as you've made mention of keeping cars in the family, so that just brings you to what will put a bigger smile on your face.
Personally, I would want to go with the lunacy of a fully blown Italian supercar. You've got a Mercedes in the garage, you can do German build etc. at any time - I'd want the V10 and (presumably) a bright paint job as the eye candy in my collection.
It doesn't sound like you need to worry about depreciation as you've made mention of keeping cars in the family, so that just brings you to what will put a bigger smile on your face.
Personally, I would want to go with the lunacy of a fully blown Italian supercar. You've got a Mercedes in the garage, you can do German build etc. at any time - I'd want the V10 and (presumably) a bright paint job as the eye candy in my collection.
Assuming the Lambo is not a manual, that should probably factor into your decision - maybe take a test drive? If you like the transmission, then I'd say Lambo over Cayman if you can live with the higher running costs.
If you want a Porsche, I'd take a closer look at the 997 GT3 as it is cheaper than the Cayman and might feel just as (or in some peoples' opinion more) special than the Cayman. Tough to say without having driven one, but I'd have a hard time choosing a GT4 over a GT3 based on current information
I had a Z3 M Coupe, then a 355 and now a 997 GT2, no Lambos and no Caymans so unfortunately no first hand experience. I loved all of them and wish I still owned all of them, but had to sell for various reasons - I hope the GT2 is here to stay, so we are similar in that respect, although I am far from ocd re my cars.
If you want a Porsche, I'd take a closer look at the 997 GT3 as it is cheaper than the Cayman and might feel just as (or in some peoples' opinion more) special than the Cayman. Tough to say without having driven one, but I'd have a hard time choosing a GT4 over a GT3 based on current information
I had a Z3 M Coupe, then a 355 and now a 997 GT2, no Lambos and no Caymans so unfortunately no first hand experience. I loved all of them and wish I still owned all of them, but had to sell for various reasons - I hope the GT2 is here to stay, so we are similar in that respect, although I am far from ocd re my cars.
Yes MPC09 good point, I think the smile factor should be the reason why I am buying and that's why I am comparing these two very different cars... they both offer something to smile about 
I definitely love the V10 and a bright paint job; is it fun to drive?
A relative does have a Murci that's he only done 3000km in 12mo but had to fork out 15k for clutch! Would the 570-4SL take my semi daily driving?
I have also looked at and driven the V8V (240kAUD new) and 599 (270kAUD for a 2008 with 20,000km) as well... again different proposition but they didn't quite do it for me (as the aston is too old and the 599 I looked at had rust on the rear tunnel bridge / wing etc. which the dealer had fixed now but still...)
Good question andrew! - I would be still lusting for the Lambo due to its look and sound; after all its still a lambo!... but I am afraid that it would pander to my ego rather than true enjoyment (philosophical argument but I would assume be thrown out the window once I turn the engine on hehehe); I will go inspect it in 2wks time as it is on the other side of the country
Not too fussed about depreciation; but my friends who were keen on the Lambo too reassured me that if I went for the GT4 I can always sell it and not lose very much to get the lambo later which will always drop in price; which makes the GT4 more attractive in a sense that I would be able to swap it more easily if I so want
The other thing is I haven't driven these cars; I will never be able to drive the GT4 before delivery but I have asked the dealer to get me a manual GTS to try (they don't have any manuals in stock). As a reference we do have a AE86 but I may get shot down if I mention that and the GT4 in the same sentence ><"
The other thing is for those that have both a 'supercar' and a 'sports car' which one do they WANT to use more?
PS Thank you for the sound board guys
I definitely love the V10 and a bright paint job; is it fun to drive?
A relative does have a Murci that's he only done 3000km in 12mo but had to fork out 15k for clutch! Would the 570-4SL take my semi daily driving?
I have also looked at and driven the V8V (240kAUD new) and 599 (270kAUD for a 2008 with 20,000km) as well... again different proposition but they didn't quite do it for me (as the aston is too old and the 599 I looked at had rust on the rear tunnel bridge / wing etc. which the dealer had fixed now but still...)
Good question andrew! - I would be still lusting for the Lambo due to its look and sound; after all its still a lambo!... but I am afraid that it would pander to my ego rather than true enjoyment (philosophical argument but I would assume be thrown out the window once I turn the engine on hehehe); I will go inspect it in 2wks time as it is on the other side of the country
Not too fussed about depreciation; but my friends who were keen on the Lambo too reassured me that if I went for the GT4 I can always sell it and not lose very much to get the lambo later which will always drop in price; which makes the GT4 more attractive in a sense that I would be able to swap it more easily if I so want
The other thing is I haven't driven these cars; I will never be able to drive the GT4 before delivery but I have asked the dealer to get me a manual GTS to try (they don't have any manuals in stock). As a reference we do have a AE86 but I may get shot down if I mention that and the GT4 in the same sentence ><"
The other thing is for those that have both a 'supercar' and a 'sports car' which one do they WANT to use more?
PS Thank you for the sound board guys
SL all the way. Supercars are so much more an event and you will never tire of a Superleggera! I thought manuals were the way for me but in the past year since driving a SL and Speciale I have seen the light. Paddle shift supercars are so much better than I ever expected. You'll get over the GT4 quick if you go Lambo
I think you made the wrong choice
Which SL were you looking at? I cant help but look at these over the 430 that I want. There was a stunning black one on carsales that I've just looked for and it has gone.
I figure that paying $50-60k more for an SL over a 430 seems worth it considering the car is 4-5 years newer (2007 v 2012). Does anyone care to comment?
Where do you live? I'm in Adelaide.
Which SL were you looking at? I cant help but look at these over the 430 that I want. There was a stunning black one on carsales that I've just looked for and it has gone.
I figure that paying $50-60k more for an SL over a 430 seems worth it considering the car is 4-5 years newer (2007 v 2012). Does anyone care to comment?
Where do you live? I'm in Adelaide.
I guess you are a Ferrari guy?
I didn't really take to the 430... looks too ordinary
The scud is 330kAUD and I'm not sure if I can use it like I would the SL ... the price is fantastic recently as I remember last year a 2008 gen1. SL went for 240k in Adelaide; this being 4yrs younger for 280k-ish is not bad
Of course the 458 is only coming down...
PS I'm from WA
I didn't really take to the 430... looks too ordinary
The scud is 330kAUD and I'm not sure if I can use it like I would the SL ... the price is fantastic recently as I remember last year a 2008 gen1. SL went for 240k in Adelaide; this being 4yrs younger for 280k-ish is not bad
Of course the 458 is only coming down...
PS I'm from WA
CheckSix said:
I guess you are a Ferrari guy?
I didn't really take to the 430... looks too ordinary
The scud is 330kAUD and I'm not sure if I can use it like I would the SL ... the price is fantastic recently as I remember last year a 2008 gen1. SL went for 240k in Adelaide; this being 4yrs younger for 280k-ish is not bad
Of course the 458 is only coming down...
PS I'm from WA
I've always wanted a Ferrari and have been plotting my way to supercar ownership. I'm not far off and am watching the market. I'm Scottish so my money will be spent wisely! If it means a little more for a newer Lambo then that might be the way to go.I didn't really take to the 430... looks too ordinary
The scud is 330kAUD and I'm not sure if I can use it like I would the SL ... the price is fantastic recently as I remember last year a 2008 gen1. SL went for 240k in Adelaide; this being 4yrs younger for 280k-ish is not bad
Of course the 458 is only coming down...
PS I'm from WA
There were 2 scud's for sale. One is being swapped out for a Speciale.
Was the SL in Adelaide the grey one or s that too recent? I've seen a grey one going about and the grey one is off CS.
I want the 458 to fall to mid 300s and that's where I'll go.
My Surname is Lamb and the family car rego is LAMBO5. I've only had one smart guy comment that I need the car to go with it
CheckSix said:
Hi everyone,
I am blessed enough to be in a position to consider a used 2012 17,000km Lambo 570-4 SL E-gear with good history for $280k AUD as my first supercar
(I may have given away that I'm from Australia!)
However... I went to a Porsche dealer to look at a comparable Porsche as when I was young my dream car was going to be a Porsche (seemed more realistic at the time)...
Something came over me and I placed a deposit for a Cayman Gt4!! The dealer told me I am 5th in line (with a 4 car allocation that's already sold). He told me that there is a good chance he could get another 1 or 2 cars (he said they sold 6 GT3s with the initial allocation of again 4 cars so he's hoping for the same). The price of the Cayman GT4 came to 230k AUD as per the yellow car in the brochure minus the roll cage (which I am considering adding for another 10k AUD).
What is everyone's position on the car to get?! The Cayman seems like THE drivers car that wouldn't likely to be repeated; where as the Lambo is well very flashy and loud which a little part of me really wants. (Head vs Heart 1st world problems etc.)
It is my first big purchase and I am still in my early 30's ... I currently have a Mercedes 250 C-coupe as a daily... but if I get either car I want to be driving it at least 3-4 days a week
What was your first 'supercar' purchase? And what would you choose in my circumstance? I am really excited either way
PS: comparable prices of cars in Australia include 2007 F430 for 220kAUD, 2008 F430 Scuderia for 330kAUD, 997.1 GT3 for 185kAUD or AMG GT-S Edition 1 for close to 300k AUD
PPS: I posted it in the supercar forum to try and not have too much Porsche bias with the current enthusiasm for the GT4 fully in the knowledge that a frankenstein cayman is not a 'supercar'
Thanks for your input!
CheckSix
Tricky one. I bought my Superleggera 4 years ago, great car! Can't comment on the Australian market but in the UK at least I can't see them dropping much if any more. The GT4 will most likely drop. Maybe not, but my guess would be it probably will unless build numbers are seriously low. I am blessed enough to be in a position to consider a used 2012 17,000km Lambo 570-4 SL E-gear with good history for $280k AUD as my first supercar
(I may have given away that I'm from Australia!)
However... I went to a Porsche dealer to look at a comparable Porsche as when I was young my dream car was going to be a Porsche (seemed more realistic at the time)...
Something came over me and I placed a deposit for a Cayman Gt4!! The dealer told me I am 5th in line (with a 4 car allocation that's already sold). He told me that there is a good chance he could get another 1 or 2 cars (he said they sold 6 GT3s with the initial allocation of again 4 cars so he's hoping for the same). The price of the Cayman GT4 came to 230k AUD as per the yellow car in the brochure minus the roll cage (which I am considering adding for another 10k AUD).
What is everyone's position on the car to get?! The Cayman seems like THE drivers car that wouldn't likely to be repeated; where as the Lambo is well very flashy and loud which a little part of me really wants. (Head vs Heart 1st world problems etc.
) It is my first big purchase and I am still in my early 30's ... I currently have a Mercedes 250 C-coupe as a daily... but if I get either car I want to be driving it at least 3-4 days a week
What was your first 'supercar' purchase? And what would you choose in my circumstance? I am really excited either way
PS: comparable prices of cars in Australia include 2007 F430 for 220kAUD, 2008 F430 Scuderia for 330kAUD, 997.1 GT3 for 185kAUD or AMG GT-S Edition 1 for close to 300k AUD
PPS: I posted it in the supercar forum to try and not have too much Porsche bias with the current enthusiasm for the GT4 fully in the knowledge that a frankenstein cayman is not a 'supercar'
Thanks for your input!
CheckSix
Another factor is whether you want a manual of flappy paddle? The Superleggeras will pretty much all be E-gear whereas as far as I know the GT4 will be manual only?
My opinion, buy the Lambo. Much cooler!
Fun choice though
Haha I call that forward planning with the name and plate
Yes that previous one in Adelaide was grey.
I think the lambo is the way to go too... now just need to find the right one
Wanting to inspect this one... never thought I'd go green though but if the price is right...
My only concern is what appears to be scrape marks on the L lower lip and relatively high mileage for a 2012 car (22k km)... but I'm looking for a keeper so that shouldn't matter much.
Yes that previous one in Adelaide was grey.
I think the lambo is the way to go too... now just need to find the right one
Wanting to inspect this one... never thought I'd go green though but if the price is right...
My only concern is what appears to be scrape marks on the L lower lip and relatively high mileage for a 2012 car (22k km)... but I'm looking for a keeper so that shouldn't matter much.
I'm only 10min from the local dealer...
But that car above is on the other side of the country / continent !
I will be over there next week anyways...
There was the anniversary 560-2 white one that was sold very fast for 375kAUD
Near me theres a 550-2 black one for 260kAUD advertised 2011 with about 11k km
I would like a keeper; so prefer one of the special models rather than an 'ordinary' lambo ...
I think the Gallardo holds itself very well next to the huracan !
But that car above is on the other side of the country / continent !
I will be over there next week anyways...
There was the anniversary 560-2 white one that was sold very fast for 375kAUD
Near me theres a 550-2 black one for 260kAUD advertised 2011 with about 11k km
I would like a keeper; so prefer one of the special models rather than an 'ordinary' lambo ...
I think the Gallardo holds itself very well next to the huracan !
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