Property renovation as 'family' business...
Property renovation as 'family' business...
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carreauchompeur

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18,331 posts

235 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Folks,

My mum is likely to come into some money soon, likely to be in the region of 150k-200k

Whilst her remaining mortgage is peanuts, she is keen to try to grow the capital. She is also keen for some of the profit to gently pass to me to assist with current aspirations of moving to the country, etc. which is nice.

We have renovated a few houses in the past quite successfully, and are keen to do the same. She has previous experience of estate agency, and I have a good knowledge of the local market in Bristol. There are a few auctions around with good stock in areas with a clear chance of some profit given light refurb. I'm good with the basic stuff/landscaping and know enough trades for the big stuff.

What's the most tax-efficient way of doing this? I'm likely to be doing this as an aside to my day job, which brings me quite close to the higher rate threshold.

Would a limited company be the way to go? Wondering also how this would go with taking money out of the business as we go.

carreauchompeur

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18,331 posts

235 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Any thoughts? smile

Countdown

49,535 posts

227 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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It really depends on how formal or informal you want to do things.

Fully formal/proper = Limited Company, Mum as Owner/CEO, you as employee/minority shareholder/co-owner (depending on how much equity you put in)

Informal = mum as sole trader/Ltd Co. You help out on an informal basis. Mum gifts you money / shares in the firm as a thank you.

Hope that makes sense smile. FWIW my family all seem to specialise in different trades. So we'll do work for each other but rarely pay cash (if that makes sense). Same applies to borrowing/lending money.

bogie

17,105 posts

303 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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doing them one at a time as an individual is the simplest way. Keep it simple, no need for LTD companies, accounts etc just to do up a couple of properties a year

WindsorRob

790 posts

283 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Bear in mind that the biggest tax advantage you could get here is by using the properties being developed as your main residence. No cap gains on that but I guess it depends on whether you have another house.

carreauchompeur

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18,331 posts

235 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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WindsorRob said:
Bear in mind that the biggest tax advantage you could get here is by using the properties being developed as your main residence. No cap gains on that but I guess it depends on whether you have another house.
That's an extremely good point. One which would need some thinking around.

I would be prepared to live in the houses as they are renovated, no massive issue with selling my flat however I would not be the majority contributor. Or, financially, much of a contributor at all so I suppose it wouldn't work.

The old dear will be remaining in her current residence... Not sure being uprooted to live in a building site in the city would please her! smile

j80jpw

829 posts

193 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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As above, live in it paying concil tax, refurb over a period of nine months when it can then be sold on without paying any capital gains. Have done this a couple of times and made around 50k which is a nice addition to my day job £.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

270 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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Would it be as simple as your mother lending you the money privately whilst the property you lived in was being developed.
There is always a way...

carreauchompeur

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18,331 posts

235 months

Monday 23rd February 2015
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That's an angle I definitely hadn't considered. I think for CGT relief it needs to be your 'main' not only residence?

Next topic, 'sub-letting a shared ownership flat with a restrictive leasehold: what's the worst that could happen?" hehe