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Squawk1066

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195 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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I have only just bought Lightroom- I made some changes to a photograph, I really like the changes but I'm not sure what I changed. Does it show those changes anywhere?

rottie102

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208 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Squawk1066 said:
I have only just bought Lightroom- I made some changes to a photograph, I really like the changes but I'm not sure what I changed. Does it show those changes anywhere?
In DEVELOP mode there's a HISTORY tab on the left side, near the bottom. That shows you all the adjustments you made.

Squawk1066

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Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Thanks ROTTIE. When I click on HISTORY, should the information just display on that tab? I have re-imported the image.

rottie102

4,033 posts

208 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Squawk1066 said:
Thanks ROTTIE. When I click on HISTORY, should the information just display on that tab? I have re-imported the image.
It shows you history of adjustments. One by one.

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

221 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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If you have reimported, it will show it as a fresh image and have no history.
Don't you have the raw image still in your catalog?

steveatesh

5,316 posts

188 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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OP, worth keeping an eye on Adobe as there is a rumour that LR 6 will be released on or around 9th march. The Adobe Forum guys poo poo it as just a rumour, but it doesn't hurt to watch.

Why? Because you may benefit from a free upgrade assuming you bought LR 5 in the period of grace that Adobe allow.

Also, its worth remembering that the alterations are lossless - i.e. the original picture is not changed by LR, the changes won't become permanent until you export the photograph.

Best wishes with it smile

Squawk1066

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Wednesday 25th February 2015
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The_Jackal said:
If you have reimported, it will show it as a fresh image and have no history.
Don't you have the raw image still in your catalog?
I can see the image in the catalog, it even shows in the main view but it says 'Image not available'. HELP!

I have not deleted anything.

ETA- I have now located the rogue photograph, Lightroom recognises it now but isn't allowing me to see the develop History. frown


Edited by Squawk1066 on Wednesday 25th February 12:24

K12beano

20,854 posts

299 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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Squawk - are you likely to have moved the file?

One LR tip I can suggest (although personally I don't tend to use it this way) is that you need to decide if you're going to be shifting files - NAS or external storage, multi-computers etc - whether you want LR to have control, because images will stay in your catalogue, but become greyed out, even if they're no longer there. There's - as always - more than one way to do these things and it often depends on how your own personal workflow works!

(One thing I'm currently looking at on my to do list is to properly learn the benefits of creative cloud as an alternative space - I haven't got my head around it yet!)

Squawk1066

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Wednesday 25th February 2015
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K12beano said:
Squawk - are you likely to have moved the file?

One LR tip I can suggest (although personally I don't tend to use it this way) is that you need to decide if you're going to be shifting files - NAS or external storage, multi-computers etc - whether you want LR to have control, because images will stay in your catalogue, but become greyed out, even if they're no longer there. There's - as always - more than one way to do these things and it often depends on how your own personal workflow works!

(One thing I'm currently looking at on my to do list is to properly learn the benefits of creative cloud as an alternative space - I haven't got my head around it yet!)
Hi K12, yes I did move it, now found and put back where it was so Lightroom recognises it now but isn't allowing me to see the HISTORY of that file.

K12beano

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299 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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Yup, that sort-of makes sense.

Does the file still have the adjustments or is that reverted to its pre-adjustment state too? (Just out of interest - I should have paid more attention to how thee things work, but when you've lived with it since before it was actually Lightroom a lot of these things you just don't consciously think about...)

Squawk1066

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Wednesday 25th February 2015
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K12beano said:
Yup, that sort-of makes sense.

Does the file still have the adjustments or is that reverted to its pre-adjustment state too? (Just out of interest - I should have paid more attention to how thee things work, but when you've lived with it since before it was actually Lightroom a lot of these things you just don't consciously think about...)
It is still in it's edited form, thankfully. I just want to alter it slightly before presenting it to a client, by that I mean undo some of what I have already done.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

230 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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There are three pieces at play when you work with Lightroom.

1. The RAW file - This is imported by Lightroom and then never changed.
2. The Catalogue - This contains the list of changes applied to each RAW file (which are reapplied automatically when you open the RAW file)
3. Any exported images (JPEGs) - These have the changes "baked in" and they do not have a record of the steps. Typically you would not reimport these in to Lightroom, they are for printing/posting/whatever.

Are you working with RAW files or just JPEGs?

Squawk1066

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Thursday 26th February 2015
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Mr Will said:
There are three pieces at play when you work with Lightroom.

1. The RAW file - This is imported by Lightroom and then never changed.
2. The Catalogue - This contains the list of changes applied to each RAW file (which are reapplied automatically when you open the RAW file)
3. Any exported images (JPEGs) - These have the changes "baked in" and they do not have a record of the steps. Typically you would not reimport these in to Lightroom, they are for printing/posting/whatever.

Are you working with RAW files or just JPEGs?
Thanks Mr Will. These are JPEGS.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

230 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Squawk1066 said:
Mr Will said:
There are three pieces at play when you work with Lightroom.

1. The RAW file - This is imported by Lightroom and then never changed.
2. The Catalogue - This contains the list of changes applied to each RAW file (which are reapplied automatically when you open the RAW file)
3. Any exported images (JPEGs) - These have the changes "baked in" and they do not have a record of the steps. Typically you would not reimport these in to Lightroom, they are for printing/posting/whatever.

Are you working with RAW files or just JPEGs?
Thanks Mr Will. These are JPEGS.
Okay, well in that case you should have (hopefully) the original JPEG somewhere instead of the RAW file. The history should still be part of the catalogue, so if you can locate this original you should be sorted.

It's important to remember that the concept remains the same though. Lightroom still stores the original and a list of changes rather than overwriting the original. The changes are only permanent in the copies you create through the export process.