RAC surely there must be a better way
RAC surely there must be a better way
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V8RX7

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28,982 posts

294 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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So I'm currently at the side of the road having called the RAC.

I've diagnosed the problem as the alternator belt - not hard as its snapped and sitting on the engine.

They insist on sending a guy to diagnose it despite me telling them I have the belt in my hand and even giving them the part no.

Its an hour eta for them and he's not bringing the belt, they can't even tell me if he will fit a belt or if I'll be recovered.

I'm moving house today so waiting isn't an option but they say I have to wait with the car - I've offered to leave my card here and sign something or even take a pic to prove it's me here - no joy.

Off to speak to the local businesses to see if I can borrow a tool kit.

Not the service I was expecting having paid for everything but home start and never using them before today.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

218 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Logic dictates they have to assume everyone's an idiot unfortunately. Be nice if he brought the part with him though.

I don't think any breakdown business would do it any differently. With any luck he'll have some universal temporary bodge he can put on to get you up and running.

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

251 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Had similar experiences from the AA.

Borrowed a Passat 1.8T from a friend and the engine blew. I rang the AA and requested a recovery truck. Nope, they didn't trust / accept my assessment and insisted on sending an engineer out to inspect it first. So he arrived, then duly requested a recovery truck, ffs.

On another occasion I had to call them, I hit a rock on a dual carriageway (didn't see it in time, it fell off the back of a tipper lorry) which buckled my rear wheel and deflated the tyre instantly. There was no way the factory puncture kit was going to fix that. The AA classed that as an RTA and advised I call the police, ffs.


BugLebowski

1,040 posts

147 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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I'm guessing this is stating the obvious, but if it is only the alternator belt couldn't you drive for a while just on battery power?

EnthusiastOwned

730 posts

148 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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BugLebowski said:
I'm guessing this is stating the obvious, but if it is only the alternator belt couldn't you drive for a while just on battery power?
I did this once, belt snapped so I instantly pulled over. Waited 2 hours for RAC in the rain and gave up, then risked it home where made it all the way. What a fool. laugh

IanCress

4,409 posts

197 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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If the weather's anything like it is here, he'll need lights, wipers, blower... battery wouldn't last too long.

zeppelin101

724 posts

223 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Conversely when I had my RX-7, one of the coolant hoses split while driving down the A1 in London. Rang the RAC, told them it had no coolant and was collected on the back of a flat bed inside 45 minutes. I think it's luck of the draw who you talk to half the time.

Oi U

211 posts

177 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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I can thoroughly recommend GEM. GEM are also recommended by AutoExpress.

illmonkey

19,830 posts

229 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Get your local ECP to drop the part off to your car, get RAC man to fit.

rustyabarth

103 posts

161 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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EnthusiastOwned said:
I did this once, belt snapped so I instantly pulled over. Waited 2 hours for RAC in the rain and gave up, then risked it home where made it all the way. What a fool. laugh
Unless it drives the water pump or power steering too

ChasW

2,163 posts

233 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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My mum called out a breakdown service once when the "gearbox jammed". Turned out the floor mat had moved so far forward it prevented the clutch from being depressed!

surveyor

18,705 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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In a way I can understand.

I once had a new pug 407 which would not lock. We eventually discovered that it was because I had caught the tailgate glass unlock button on the button. Bloke was good about it and was getting their screen updated at the control centre....

But I'd had a couple of problems with Limp modes. First time RAC reset it, and dealer decided nothing was wrong. I was therefore instructed if it happened again to not let them reset it, but get it recovered. Said that to the girl who said still have to send van out. Van chap rang 3 minutes later said no point coming out I'll get it recovered....

Luck of the draw.

littleredrooster

6,413 posts

227 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Never assume that the general public know their arses from their elbows, because usually they don't.

"It's snapped the fan belt" - No, it's snapped the cambelt and wrecked the engine. It's not a roadside repair.
"It's developed an oil leak" - Yes, the oil is leaking from the huge hole that the con-rod is now poking out of.
"I've got a puncture" - No, you've got a bit of burnt, shredded rubber on your rim where you've tried to drive for twenty miles. And a flat spare that you forgot to fix last time this happened two years ago.
"It's been rattling for five miles but now it's stopped" - Yes, it's been rattling like a Dalek having a wk in a dustbin for ten miles because it has no oil in the sump. At all. No - your battery is not flat, it's seized solid.


Krikkit

27,939 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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I agree they have to pander to the lowest possible competence, but I had a similar experience once.

The diagnosis was the cambelt idler retaining bolt has snapped, leading to a slack cambelt, so 16 bent valves and a dead engine. I described and explained it thoroughly, yet they still insisted on having someone come and "diagnose" it, which was a 5s sniff under the bonnet and another 70 minute wait for a flatbed.

surveyor

18,705 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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and Yet I've seen a story on these forums along the lines....

Old chap in an old car got recovered home 300 miles after fuel pump seized or some such. Persuades control room to just send recovery. On relay 3 he mentions to the recovery driver that it's the 3rd year in the row that he'd run the car dry of fuel to get a lift home. He got dropped off at the nearest safe spot.

True story? No idea, but I would not bet that they have experienced this and hence stick to their system.....

littleredrooster

6,413 posts

227 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Of course, the other side to this is Statistics...

If they send a local man in a van without any means of repairing or removing you, they can still truthfully claim that they matched their claim of "Attendance within 40 minutes or your money back" or whatever their Key Performance Indicator is. Matters not that he was as much use as a one-legged midget in an arse-kicking contest, they've still matched their promise and don't owe you any money.

Gafferjim

1,337 posts

296 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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When you see / hear some of the reasons that drivers call out recovery, you'd be amazed!
They're prepared to wait on the H/S of a motorway for:.............
The indicator is stuck on.
The wipers have packed up (not raining )
My windscreen is dirty and the screenwash isn't working.
I've a yellow warning light on. (Stop for RED ones, yellow ones can be sorted later)

These are what I can remember off hand, but there are others that any "normal" driver should be able to overcome / sort out off the motorway.

justanother5tar

1,314 posts

156 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Gafferjim said:
When you see / hear some of the reasons that drivers call out recovery, you'd be amazed!
They're prepared to wait on the H/S of a motorway for:.............
The indicator is stuck on.
The wipers have packed up (not raining )
My windscreen is dirty and the screenwash isn't working.
I've a yellow warning light on. (Stop for RED ones, yellow ones can be sorted later)

These are what I can remember off hand, but there are others that any "normal" driver should be able to overcome / sort out off the motorway.
I got an amber light up the other day in my hire car, had to pull over cause i had no idea what it was.

Turned out to be low screen wash!

illmonkey

19,830 posts

229 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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justanother5tar said:
Gafferjim said:
When you see / hear some of the reasons that drivers call out recovery, you'd be amazed!
They're prepared to wait on the H/S of a motorway for:.............
The indicator is stuck on.
The wipers have packed up (not raining )
My windscreen is dirty and the screenwash isn't working.
I've a yellow warning light on. (Stop for RED ones, yellow ones can be sorted later)

These are what I can remember off hand, but there are others that any "normal" driver should be able to overcome / sort out off the motorway.
I got an amber light up the other day in my hire car, had to pull over cause i had no idea what it was.

Turned out to be low screen wash!
My golf seems to make mountains out of molehills.

I get a bright orange triangle with a explanation mark in it, to warn me it's low. I've been driving the car for 2 weeks, using screenwash daily and it's still warning me, and it still keeps working.

I imagine to the nervous driver or idiot, it'd be more than enough to warrant a phone call.


glasgowrob

3,349 posts

152 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Had this on a couple of occasions with the rac phone monkeys

Including telling them the car needs recovered and getting a van turn up to diagnose the issue, you think telling them there's a hole in the side of the engine and a Conrod embedded in my radiator which is now empty would be enough to send a wagon out straight away.