least tedious economical car
Discussion
Parked outside my local supermarket earlier was a citroen cactus - it looked quite smart, and so a quick google reveals that they should probably return about 60mpg, its a reasonable sized car so that seems quite good.
my daily driver outback 3.0 manages about 27mpg with my commute almost exclusively on A roads where I can cruise at the speed limit. Its very comfortable and quite nice place to be, but I pretty much never use the available performance. I cover about 20k miles per year
If I were to change my car for something relatively cheap to lease with low BIK could I get something that might get close to 60mpg (actual rather than claimed) and be comfortable for 20k miles a year.
my daily driver outback 3.0 manages about 27mpg with my commute almost exclusively on A roads where I can cruise at the speed limit. Its very comfortable and quite nice place to be, but I pretty much never use the available performance. I cover about 20k miles per year
If I were to change my car for something relatively cheap to lease with low BIK could I get something that might get close to 60mpg (actual rather than claimed) and be comfortable for 20k miles a year.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I often get an average 60 out of my Leon Ecomotive Diesel. oddly enough I will be changing in a few months to the Citroen C4 cactus.
how has the leon been? I see the cactus as a modern citroen visa - a pal of mine had a diesel one of those back in the 80's and it used to return 60mpg
Edited by sawman on Saturday 28th February 13:15
Mr E said:
Paradaxos said:
Lotus Elise
For 20k a year?Fuel cost for a 60mpg diesel car for the same distance would be something in the region of £1800 and it almost definitely *would* be tedious.
Cost of spares and maintenance I dare say would be cheaper on the Elise than a modern diesel if you did the work yourself.
A citroen C4 cactus is about £3k more expensive than an Elise with aircon to buy.
Perhaps OP could keep his outback for when he needs a car with space and use the Elise as a daily.
AND he'd have an excuse to moan about his back injuries.
A lot of modern day claims on fuel consumption are spurious to put it mildly.
The old Citroen C1 diesel had an engine which was not fancy like modern day turbo's and did closer to claimed mpg than modern day cars. It was over 60. It was only 55bhp but you could chip it up to about 65-70 and that was ample for toodling around ..still with 60mpg easy.
The old Citroen C1 diesel had an engine which was not fancy like modern day turbo's and did closer to claimed mpg than modern day cars. It was over 60. It was only 55bhp but you could chip it up to about 65-70 and that was ample for toodling around ..still with 60mpg easy.
Paradaxos said:
Alright, it's not worth hating an Elise.
Maybe one of those diesel Octavia VRSeses. I think you can get one for £5k or so.
iIf my commute were anything like interesting I would be all over an elise. I spent 4 years covering 10k miles a year in a morgan, but in the end it was the wrong car for the job, and whilst the elise is probably a bit more civilised but would probably fall into a similar camp.Maybe one of those diesel Octavia VRSeses. I think you can get one for £5k or so.
The octvia might be a sensible choice but they look a bit dull to me - maybe I should look again.
I did wonder about golf GTD as I can get a fully maintianed and insured one via the work lease scheme for less than £300 a month but they only seem to manage low 40's mpg, presumably the octavia will be similar?
sawman said:
iIf my commute were anything like interesting I would be all over an elise. I spent 4 years covering 10k miles a year in a morgan, but in the end it was the wrong car for the job, and whilst the elise is probably a bit more civilised but would probably fall into a similar camp.
The octvia might be a sensible choice but they look a bit dull to me - maybe I should look again.
I did wonder about golf GTD as I can get a fully maintianed and insured one via the work lease scheme for less than £300 a month but they only seem to manage low 40's mpg, presumably the octavia will be similar?
I've heard that you can expect more like 50 out of a diesel VRS but I couldn't say first hand.The octvia might be a sensible choice but they look a bit dull to me - maybe I should look again.
I did wonder about golf GTD as I can get a fully maintianed and insured one via the work lease scheme for less than £300 a month but they only seem to manage low 40's mpg, presumably the octavia will be similar?
edit: looks like people are getting about 45 on fuelly with mixed motorway/ city driving.
Edited by Paradaxos on Saturday 28th February 14:29
at 55 - 60 mpg I would be saving £100. The cheapest lease car I can get via work would be an aygo at £180 all in including BIK tax.
the other way to look at it would be diesel barge, but the inconvenience of mending old cars can be an issue - I did do shedding for a couple of years and whilst it didnt cost much, I did get stranded once which was a pain.
the other way to look at it would be diesel barge, but the inconvenience of mending old cars can be an issue - I did do shedding for a couple of years and whilst it didnt cost much, I did get stranded once which was a pain.
The Cactus is an interesting proposition.
Built on the C3 chassis but only a little smaller than the C4, it's stripped out and very economical.
The HDi claims about 90mpg on a run.
But the rear windows are not wind down jobbies and it will feel quite tinny. Could be the next cult estate agent car, especially if there are some funky/branded aftermarket air bumps coming. It's very cheap too, nearly supplied 40 to one of my customers but they took Jukes with us instead.
Built on the C3 chassis but only a little smaller than the C4, it's stripped out and very economical.
The HDi claims about 90mpg on a run.
But the rear windows are not wind down jobbies and it will feel quite tinny. Could be the next cult estate agent car, especially if there are some funky/branded aftermarket air bumps coming. It's very cheap too, nearly supplied 40 to one of my customers but they took Jukes with us instead.
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