HGV driving.
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EzyQ

Original Poster:

149 posts

248 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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I've had my HGV lincence since I was 22 it's the class 1 I managed to complete before the law changed. I've done various driving jobs over the years last time I drove was probably 2007.

Was there a new law introduced with regards to the tacho and driving hours in the past year and also something with regards to CPC or all drivers require an operating licence now?

In other words if I was to start driving again do I need to upgrade my licence

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

198 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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You will need to do 35 hours of compulsory training. Not sure about the tacho, but it's probably when they switched to digi cards, which you will need if what ever you are driving has a digital tacho, which it probably will.

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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April 2007 was the last big change, although a review is underway now.

Lost: off-road driving now counts

Gained: reduced rest no longer needs to be paid back

EzyQ

Original Poster:

149 posts

248 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Why the 35hrs of compulsory training what does that consist of.

So it's the digi card that changed replaced the tacho

EzyQ

Original Poster:

149 posts

248 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Can I basically jump back in the cab then and start driving

Super Slo Mo

5,374 posts

229 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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No, you need to do a drivers cpc, which is the 35 hours of classroom training. I'm in the same situation, got an lgv licence but can't use it without spending circa £400 plus vat and a week on training.

EzyQ

Original Poster:

149 posts

248 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Ah ok I get you now..

Is that how much it's costing for the training then, ?

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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That's dear, but approaching £400 all in isn't out of the way.

sheepman

452 posts

191 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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some companies will put you through it but they are usually the companies that can't get drivers for love nor money.

to put yourself through it you're looking at £400+ although I've heard on the grapevine you can pay a little more to get your CPC without spending a second in the classroom. wink

tbh i'd say its hardly worth doing for the wages most driving jobs offer,the main the reason I left transport was because of all the hoops you had to jump through and how over regulated it is.

The Turbonator

2,792 posts

182 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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The CPC course is a load of bollacks to be honest. You could so the same course 5 times (7 hours each) and as long as you accumulate those 35 hours, you're okay.

My employer pays for mine and we get sent on one 7 hour course each year, you need to get 35 hours every 5 years. Think the price is around £130 per 7 hour class.

As for the tacho, you need to get a digi card.

interloper

2,747 posts

286 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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I am currently getting the hours in, the individual courses I have found are around £90 a go. If you are an RHA member there are some slightly discounted courses avaiable. Cheapest alternative seems to be a week long course for about £325.

Another thing to consider is if you are interested in getting an ADR or hiab cert you can do courses which also count towards your CPC.


GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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I have a DCPC and I completed 5x drivers hours: two in one long day!

rb5er

11,657 posts

203 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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I did my DCPC when I did my HGV test. It consisted of just another theory and another practical test a bit like the HGV test did. I know that after that point its a case of doing the 35 hours over the next 5 years, most companies will put drivers through a 1 day session a year to keep it up.


I don`t do HGV driving anymore, couldn`t find enough money in it.

R0G

5,037 posts

186 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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GC8 said:
April 2007 was the last big change, although a review is underway now.

Lost: off-road driving now counts

Gained: reduced rest no longer needs to be paid back
Reduced DAILY rest does not need paying back but reduced WEEKLY rest does

As you need 35 hours of periodic you would be well to get at least a 7 hours course on the regs

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Rather obviously, I thought, I was demonstrating a point and not summarising all changes. He needs to read the latest Driving Hours book!

Start here:

https://www.gov.uk/drivers-hours/overview

Read this (Id suggest downloading & printing it as finding an actual copy isn't easy now)

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

Road2Ruin

6,545 posts

247 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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GC8 said:
I have a DCPC and I completed 5x drivers hours: two in one long day!
Why might I ask?

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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You're going to have to expand on that question.

One of these might be the answer that you were looking for though: Five the same because that's how it fell. Five the same because there is no stipulation as to which modules may be taken nor how many times. Two in a day because the deadline was drawing close and that is what was available.

MattHall91

1,275 posts

155 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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First and foremost, have you got a big capital D belly?

If not, don't bother driving a HGV until you have.

Road2Ruin

6,545 posts

247 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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GC8 said:
You're going to have to expand on that question.

One of these might be the answer that you were looking for though: Five the same because that's how it fell. Five the same because there is no stipulation as to which modules may be taken nor how many times. Two in a day because the deadline was drawing close and that is what was available.
Surely you know which?
I can understand that some people have no choice as to when they do the training so have to take what they are offered, within reason. However doing 5 of the same thing just because you can makes them an idiot and if I was an employer looking for someone I wouldn't employ them on that basis. The runing out of time example only works for those who are going back into the industry. If you were an existing driver before 2009 then you had 5 years. ..leaving it to the last few months or weeks again reflects badly on them.

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Road2Ruin said:
Surely you know which?
I can understand that some people have no choice as to when they do the training so have to take what they are offered, within reason. However doing 5 of the same thing just because you can makes them an idiot and if I was an employer looking for someone I wouldn't employ them on that basis. The runing out of time example only works for those who are going back into the industry. If you were an existing driver before 2009 then you had 5 years. ..leaving it to the last few months or weeks again reflects badly on them.
'An idiot'?

Wind your neck in Marc - and fk off.