Yanks and Alexander the Great
Discussion
Please lock me down if I'm repeating but...
How much does it pi$$ you off the this film apparently bombed in the US because the was portrayed as Bi, regardless of whether or not the film was any good.
He was. I studied Greek Classical Civilisation for 5 years - you were considered odd if you didn’t swing both ways. Although admittedly penetration was a bit of a no no..
How much does it pi$$ you off the this film apparently bombed in the US because the was portrayed as Bi, regardless of whether or not the film was any good.
He was. I studied Greek Classical Civilisation for 5 years - you were considered odd if you didn’t swing both ways. Although admittedly penetration was a bit of a no no..
there's you on the fence again!
rude-boy said:
How much does it pi$$ you off the this film apparently bombed in the US because the was portrayed as Bi, regardless of whether or not the film was any good.
He was. I studied Greek Classical Civilisation for 5 years - you were considered odd if you didn’t swing both ways. Although admittedly penetration was a bit of a no no..
How come they didn't die out then?Baths?IVF?Mass importation of Vietnamese orphans?
anonymous said:
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GCSE and A Level old boy - Wasn't allowed to do Latin as I arrived at prep from the state system 2 years after the others had started learning that and French, which it was considered more important I caught up with!
I'd tell you how much of a
up they made of the Iliad with Troy if the end result hadn't been a nice yarn itself. By the way Achilles and Patroclus? Yep they were a bit closer than just relatives... >> Edited by rude-boy on Friday 14th January 15:29
planetdave said:
How come they didn't die out then?Baths?IVF?Mass importation of Vietnamese orphans?
Homosexual penetration was the no no doofuss! (okay I could have been clearer)
Men married at about the age of 30 back then, usually their wife was half their age or less.
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anonymous said:
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Thanks mate. It went over my head the first time. Should know by (bi?) now that I should chose my words carefuly with you lot!
Now if only I'd spent more time listening in English rather than reliving the sound b
ring I'd had from the head of house the night before... 
I posted a rather dull (though interesting IMO) post about this the other week when someone asked for comments. I did a degree in Ancient History, and various parts of it were on Classical Greek Civilisation and judging by the reviews of the film, Stone got the historical parts of the film bang on. Of course he was bloody bi!! That's just the way things were, if only the morally outraged read about the topic, then they would know this!! 
I am going to see it tommorow, hope it isn't like that balls up of history (or legend rather) Troy.
I am going to see it tommorow, hope it isn't like that balls up of history (or legend rather) Troy.
Been done here:
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=141&h=&t=147629
No one liked it in the US.
The most liberal, pro-homosexual and anti-conservative newspapers hated it.
Just a bad movie.
Dave
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No one liked it in the US.
The most liberal, pro-homosexual and anti-conservative newspapers hated it.
Just a bad movie.
Dave
rude-boy said:
anonymous said:[redacted]
GCSE and A Level old boy - Wasn't allowed to do Latin as I arrived at prep from the state system 2 years after the others had started learning that and French, which it was considered more important I caught up with!
I'd tell you how much of a
>> Edited by rude-boy on Friday 14th January 15:29
True.
But the Odissey has always been my favorite, and I am surprised no movie has been spun off from it.
I mean, it has all the ingredient of a blockbuster, long gone hero, epic journey, returning home, revenge.....
Bit scared if they screw it up on screen though - Ulysse played by Tom Cruise .....Am gonna get sick only thinking of it......
In my opinion it's a terrible terrible film, nothing to do with anything bisexual either.
It's just a mess, the only thing that's epic about it is it's sheer crappiness. Bad casting, directing and awful action choreography and the only film I've ever considered leaving the cinema for out of sheer boredom (I refused as I'd have no right to be making these comments if I had)
I usually love Oliver Stone's stuff, Platoon in particular is a favourite of mine. However this is nothing but a badly structured and badly acted shambles. It left me with the feeling that Alexander wasn't great whatsoever, but a arrogant and ridiculously foolish lucky git. If that is what happened and it is historically accurate then I really can't see how making your way east with a gang of thugs killing as many people as possible in order to claim ownership of their lands and not stopping until a few members of your idiot crew finally penetrate your thick skull and tell you that maybe it's time to go home could ever be perceived as "GREAT!"
I realise there's a lot more to the true Alexander story but this film paints an awful and frankly ridiculous picture of history's supposed greatest king and ruler. It failed to entertain me or any of the people I saw it with one tiny little bit, and regardless of accuracy or anything else, a movie's sole purpose other than making money is to entertain it's audience. It flopped because it's just plain rubbish!
I hated it, and will never watch it again.
Andy
ps. We still have Baz Lurmann's version of the Alexander story to come, with.... LEONARDO DE CAPRIO as the man himself this time. Aaaah dear!
It's just a mess, the only thing that's epic about it is it's sheer crappiness. Bad casting, directing and awful action choreography and the only film I've ever considered leaving the cinema for out of sheer boredom (I refused as I'd have no right to be making these comments if I had)
I usually love Oliver Stone's stuff, Platoon in particular is a favourite of mine. However this is nothing but a badly structured and badly acted shambles. It left me with the feeling that Alexander wasn't great whatsoever, but a arrogant and ridiculously foolish lucky git. If that is what happened and it is historically accurate then I really can't see how making your way east with a gang of thugs killing as many people as possible in order to claim ownership of their lands and not stopping until a few members of your idiot crew finally penetrate your thick skull and tell you that maybe it's time to go home could ever be perceived as "GREAT!"
I realise there's a lot more to the true Alexander story but this film paints an awful and frankly ridiculous picture of history's supposed greatest king and ruler. It failed to entertain me or any of the people I saw it with one tiny little bit, and regardless of accuracy or anything else, a movie's sole purpose other than making money is to entertain it's audience. It flopped because it's just plain rubbish!
I hated it, and will never watch it again.
Andy
ps. We still have Baz Lurmann's version of the Alexander story to come, with.... LEONARDO DE CAPRIO as the man himself this time. Aaaah dear!
Gulliver said:
But the Odissey has always been my favorite, and I am surprised no movie has been spun off from it.
Oh Brother where art thou. Clearly based on the Odyssey.
Although for the 'real' thing you'd need Peter Jackson directing most of it then then Quentin Tarantino for the end.
As for the lead. Tricky
Odysseus hardly typical all American Hero - devious bugger. Blackadder style could work quite well. T
DanL said:
Ulysse played by Tom Cruise
Odysseus, please. We'll have no Romanisation here.
Dan
Bloody Roman heathans - bad enough that they kick us out of Sicily, nick gods and copy our architcture... mutter, mutter
I've not see the film yet myself, which is why I was slanting the post towards the sexuality issue, but it would have concerned me if they hadn't chosen a young actor for the lead, Alexander died a young man.
los angeles said:
you just needed to look into Farrell's eyes to disbelieve the brat could spear anything larger than a pork sausage
I thought it was the suggestion that he was spearing things larger than a pork sausage that was upsetting the Yanks.
Only seen the trails but have to agree with you LA he looks more like Boy Band material than a leader of men.
T
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