modified 993 query
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Has had a lot of work done and is now apparently well over 300bhp.would mods of this nature and extent put people off or make them wary as it has me?looks a nice car and had lots of other work done
Has had a lot of work done and is now apparently well over 300bhp.would mods of this nature and extent put people off or make them wary as it has me?looks a nice car and had lots of other work done
Turbo ruins the essence of a C2. Thats cars neither fish nor fowl. If you want turbo buy a 993 turbo. If you want a na car buy a 993 C2. You may not find a good car straight away. Join PCGB or Tipec and wait for a cherished example to come up for sale through word of mouth if there's nothing that fits in the classifieds. I spent about 7 years looking for good air-cooled cars and spent £13k more than I should have (at the time) for my Carrera and £10k more than I should have for my 964 at the time. I did eventually get good honest examples.
Quite a lot of 964 and 993 engines that have been modified to 3.8L around these days. Personally I like the engine to be standard and therefore running within it's original imposed limits. Hence why my 964 was just refreshed when it was rebuilt. However, as more people get these engines rebuilt I can see why they are tempted to 'add power' while it's being done. So, the one you've linked to is far from a one off and there's definitely a market for these big power n/a aircooled.
IMIA said:
Turbo ruins the essence of a C2. Thats cars neither fish nor fowl. If you want turbo buy a 993 turbo. If you want a na car buy a 993 C2. You may not find a good car straight away. Join PCGB or Tipec and wait for a cherished example to come up for sale through word of mouth if there's nothing that fits in the classifieds. I spent about 7 years looking for good air-cooled cars and spent £13k more than I should have (at the time) for my Carrera and £10k more than I should have for my 964 at the time. I did eventually get good honest examples.
I dont think its a turbo conversion tbh its still air cooled. I'm quite happy to keep looking but initially just going through the few available on PH. I'll have a look at tipec and pcgb if cars do come up on there thanksI'd call Ninemeister and speak to Colin Belton about the car. He'll tell you whether anything was scrimped on or would be recommended to add to the car. He was overall Porsche Speed Champion in the 993 RS he used partly as a test bed for all the development work before offering it to the market, so they don't just talk the talk.
If you'd prefer a standard car for whatever reason then fair enough, I'm sure someone else will see the value in the modifications, being as they've been done by a recognised specialist, and for such a buyer the car could be a bargain.
The first Singer I ever saw covered by journalists (an orange one) had a modified engine supplied by Ninemeister that Singer had specifically chosen for the enhanced performance along with a character appropriate to the car.
If you're on the fence one way or the other why not go to view and drive the car? That will tell you much more about it and whether it appeals to you than you'll ever learn from a web forum.
If you'd prefer a standard car for whatever reason then fair enough, I'm sure someone else will see the value in the modifications, being as they've been done by a recognised specialist, and for such a buyer the car could be a bargain.
The first Singer I ever saw covered by journalists (an orange one) had a modified engine supplied by Ninemeister that Singer had specifically chosen for the enhanced performance along with a character appropriate to the car.
If you're on the fence one way or the other why not go to view and drive the car? That will tell you much more about it and whether it appeals to you than you'll ever learn from a web forum.
350bhp is around RSR output and if its done in the same way - intake, cams, fuelling, equal length headers - then its effectively a race engine with a big torque hole and only meaningful once you have all the correct ratios and Final drive, and even then, meaningful only on a circuit.
For a tractable, real world road or road/track car, a standard 3.6 or standard 3.8 is vastly preferable IMO. Headline bhp numbers which you might shout about down the pub really tell you sod all. How it deploys that power, how it feels throughout the rev range and out and out reliability is what its all about IMO.
For a tractable, real world road or road/track car, a standard 3.6 or standard 3.8 is vastly preferable IMO. Headline bhp numbers which you might shout about down the pub really tell you sod all. How it deploys that power, how it feels throughout the rev range and out and out reliability is what its all about IMO.
Edited by jackal on Monday 9th March 21:50
9M built the Engine in my 993 RSR Race car as well as fitting their 9M Exhaust, headers and Inlet. Car has been raced since 2008 by me and very reliable. Engine still giving the power too. So to answer your question, if you want a modified 993 then go for one as nobody else can make that decision for you.
majordad said:
9M built the Engine in my 993 RSR Race car as well as fitting their 9M Exhaust, headers and Inlet. Car has been raced since 2008 by me and very reliable. Engine still giving the power too. So to answer your question, if you want a modified 993 then go for one as nobody else can make that decision for you.
Tbh would prefer std ish but of the few cars around at the mo it was in the right budget. Be interesting to see what the insurers might think of it for quotes.Wozy68 said:
On the face of it, it seems excellent value for money.
What's not to like. I'd be up there like a shot viewing already.
Ninemeister were closed when i tried ringing yesterday afternoon but are open today so i might ring later. Its also reasonably close (2hrs prob) so may be worth a look at the weekend What's not to like. I'd be up there like a shot viewing already.
200Plus Club said:
Wozy68 said:
On the face of it, it seems excellent value for money.
What's not to like. I'd be up there like a shot viewing already.
Whereabouts in the world is Hampshire lol! I do like the look of it with dark leather also. Ringing for info today.What's not to like. I'd be up there like a shot viewing already.
IMIA said:
200Plus Club said:
Wozy68 said:
On the face of it, it seems excellent value for money.
What's not to like. I'd be up there like a shot viewing already.
Whereabouts in the world is Hampshire lol! I do like the look of it with dark leather also. Ringing for info today.What's not to like. I'd be up there like a shot viewing already.
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