Bet on Alonso to Win Championship
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As I posted on the Formula 1 thread in December I put a bet of £100 on McLaren comming last in the championship at 250/1.
My reasoning for this was I was told that the Honda engine had 50 bhp less than last years Mercedes engine and was not as economical.I thought that McLaren would have a nightmare season like Lotus did last year,all the Mercedes engined teams would beat them,that Ferrari and Sauber would do a lot better than last year and so would the Renault teams Red Bull and Toro Rossa.
My problem is that I was fairly confident that Caterham and Marussia would not come back but as Manor have been revived it could well have put a spanner in the works but they may be reliable and get a few points in the first couple of races and with the new 2015 car and Ferrari engine later in the year give me a bit of hope,but not much.
My reasoning for this was I was told that the Honda engine had 50 bhp less than last years Mercedes engine and was not as economical.I thought that McLaren would have a nightmare season like Lotus did last year,all the Mercedes engined teams would beat them,that Ferrari and Sauber would do a lot better than last year and so would the Renault teams Red Bull and Toro Rossa.
My problem is that I was fairly confident that Caterham and Marussia would not come back but as Manor have been revived it could well have put a spanner in the works but they may be reliable and get a few points in the first couple of races and with the new 2015 car and Ferrari engine later in the year give me a bit of hope,but not much.
btcc123 said:
As I posted on the Formula 1 thread in December I put a bet of £100 on McLaren comming last in the championship at 250/1.
My reasoning for this was I was told that the Honda engine had 50 bhp less than last years Mercedes engine and was not as economical.I thought that McLaren would have a nightmare season like Lotus did last year,all the Mercedes engined teams would beat them,that Ferrari and Sauber would do a lot better than last year and so would the Renault teams Red Bull and Toro Rossa.
My problem is that I was fairly confident that Caterham and Marussia would not come back but as Manor have been revived it could well have put a spanner in the works but they may be reliable and get a few points in the first couple of races and with the new 2015 car and Ferrari engine later in the year give me a bit of hope,but not much.
Either way, its a better investment than putting your money on someone who thinks he is 13 and "one day wants to race in formula 1" ... Even at 50 to 1.My reasoning for this was I was told that the Honda engine had 50 bhp less than last years Mercedes engine and was not as economical.I thought that McLaren would have a nightmare season like Lotus did last year,all the Mercedes engined teams would beat them,that Ferrari and Sauber would do a lot better than last year and so would the Renault teams Red Bull and Toro Rossa.
My problem is that I was fairly confident that Caterham and Marussia would not come back but as Manor have been revived it could well have put a spanner in the works but they may be reliable and get a few points in the first couple of races and with the new 2015 car and Ferrari engine later in the year give me a bit of hope,but not much.
Another good bet would be Magnussen for the WDC. Massive odds, so long there aren't any, but, the Honda project was very ambitious and when they get it running, it is probably the only car out there that might beat the Merc.
998420 said:
Either way, its a better investment than putting your money on someone who thinks he is 13 and "one day wants to race in formula 1" ... Even at 50 to 1.
Another good bet would be Magnussen for the WDC. Massive odds, so long there aren't any, but, the Honda project was very ambitious and when they get it running, it is probably the only car out there that might beat the Merc.
I'm interested to know why you would think that. There's no evidence yet that the McLaren is a better chassis than the Merc and even less that the Honda engine is any good. Honda don't exactly have a decent track record in F1 engines, not in recent decades in any case.Another good bet would be Magnussen for the WDC. Massive odds, so long there aren't any, but, the Honda project was very ambitious and when they get it running, it is probably the only car out there that might beat the Merc.
REALIST123 said:
I'm interested to know why you would think that. There's no evidence yet that the McLaren is a better chassis than the Merc and even less that the Honda engine is any good. Honda don't exactly have a decent track record in F1 engines, not in recent decades in any case.
Agreed, why would it be better than Williams? It was certainly no where near as good last year. As for Honda engines, people seem to remember the 1980's and forget more recent efforts. 2008, their last attempt at an F1 engine, was truly dreadful.REALIST123 said:
I'm interested to know why you would think that. There's no evidence yet that the McLaren is a better chassis than the Merc and even less that the Honda engine is any good. Honda don't exactly have a decent track record in F1 engines, not in recent decades in any case.
No, none, agreed. But, it is possible. All the others we know are a second behind. They will probably catch up some, but experienced eyes see a strong Merc advantage this year and no apparent single trick the FIA can suddenly ban to close the field up as they often did before.Knowledgeable people have admired the McHonda, packaging and aero, it has not been designed to trundle around in midfield. If they get the PU kit fixed and preforming, then it may well be the car most likely to challenge Merc.
Yes, it is a long shot, but so are the odds, and I don't see any others more likely to be worth a punt.
998420 said:
REALIST123 said:
I'm interested to know why you would think that. There's no evidence yet that the McLaren is a better chassis than the Merc and even less that the Honda engine is any good. Honda don't exactly have a decent track record in F1 engines, not in recent decades in any case.
No, none, agreed. But, it is possible. All the others we know are a second behind. They will probably catch up some, but experienced eyes see a strong Merc advantage this year and no apparent single trick the FIA can suddenly ban to close the field up as they often did before.Knowledgeable people have admired the McHonda, packaging and aero, it has not been designed to trundle around in midfield. If they get the PU kit fixed and preforming, then it may well be the car most likely to challenge Merc.
Yes, it is a long shot, but so are the odds, and I don't see any others more likely to be worth a punt.
And "knowledgeable" people were disparaging the Mercedes last year before the cars showed their true pace. At the same time stating that the RBR was going to be the car to beat. That was from a visual appraisal, which is all anyone's had with McLaren this year.
But, as you say, any things possible. We'll see.
REALIST123 said:
I agree that any things possible but that's not a good reason for a bet!
And "knowledgeable" people were disparaging the Mercedes last year before the cars showed their true pace. At the same time stating that the RBR was going to be the car to beat. That was from a visual appraisal, which is all anyone's had with McLaren this year.
But, as you say, any things possible. We'll see.
Well, it is reason for a bet if you have a tenner to burn and consider the possibility of this happening to be greater than the odds given. And "knowledgeable" people were disparaging the Mercedes last year before the cars showed their true pace. At the same time stating that the RBR was going to be the car to beat. That was from a visual appraisal, which is all anyone's had with McLaren this year.
But, as you say, any things possible. We'll see.
Many Bookies are Horse racing people who don't know so much about F1, they just go by the form book and their % tables, leading certain fans, like me, to believe that it is one area where it might just be possible to get some money off the ****ers.
If Renault had imade an engine that was within 20 bhp of the Merc (with midrange and driveability of course) then RBR would have been around to exploit a very good chassis at the pointy end again.
btcc123 said:
As I posted on the Formula 1 thread in December I put a bet of £100 on McLaren comming last in the championship at 250/1.
My reasoning for this was I was told that the Honda engine had 50 bhp less than last years Mercedes engine and was not as economical.I thought that McLaren would have a nightmare season like Lotus did last year,all the Mercedes engined teams would beat them,that Ferrari and Sauber would do a lot better than last year and so would the Renault teams Red Bull and Toro Rossa.
My problem is that I was fairly confident that Caterham and Marussia would not come back but as Manor have been revived it could well have put a spanner in the works but they may be reliable and get a few points in the first couple of races and with the new 2015 car and Ferrari engine later in the year give me a bit of hope,but not much.
I am interested in this bet also. How/where did you place it? I'm only seeing listed bets for winners / driver vs driver events, but nothing for 'losing'.My reasoning for this was I was told that the Honda engine had 50 bhp less than last years Mercedes engine and was not as economical.I thought that McLaren would have a nightmare season like Lotus did last year,all the Mercedes engined teams would beat them,that Ferrari and Sauber would do a lot better than last year and so would the Renault teams Red Bull and Toro Rossa.
My problem is that I was fairly confident that Caterham and Marussia would not come back but as Manor have been revived it could well have put a spanner in the works but they may be reliable and get a few points in the first couple of races and with the new 2015 car and Ferrari engine later in the year give me a bit of hope,but not much.
Thanks
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