997.... manual or tiptronic???
997.... manual or tiptronic???
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zulash

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202 posts

139 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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just contemplating buying a 997 and would have always gone for manual trans. however a car that has got my interest has tiptronic (never driven one). not a massive issue.but i would just welcome a few opinions. thanks. (not off you Jim!.)

sidicks

25,218 posts

250 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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zulash said:
just contemplating buying a 997 and would have always gone for manual trans. however a car that has got my interest has tiptronic (never driven one). not a massive issue.but i would just welcome a few opinions. thanks. (not off you Jim!.)
Unless you need an automatic then NEVER consider a tiptronic over a manual!!

Slackster

44 posts

173 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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I test drove a c2s tiptronic and wasn't overly impressed as the car felt a bit sluggish in general as the gear changes moved up to high gears at low revs, so I went for a manual in the end, when I swapped it for a 997Turbo I tried a tip again and loved it so bought it.

I suspect that tiptronic boxes may be better suited to a turbo as the pickup is quicker at lower revs anyway so it feels mighty fast compared to the NA engines that need a bit of high revs before gear changes to get that fast feeling.

If its just for the ease factor of not dealing with a clutch on the motorway then yes they are great but ultimately its horses for courses!

Just my opinion though and you'll likely get the polar opposite shortly smile

zulash

Original Poster:

202 posts

139 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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i had Mercedes cars for a lot of years, i don't remember having a manual box. driving auto was not a problem then. is there a problem with tiptronic? i believe there was with early Boxsters.

zulash

Original Poster:

202 posts

139 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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rather than knowing which transmision everyone prefers.... are there any specific issues/problems with the tiptronic box?

petop

2,378 posts

195 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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I had a C4S Tip and was fine once you got used to it, just use it in manual. Never had any issues and i think the oil change on it was around 80 or 90k. Never had a fault which to be fair wasnt expected as its derived from a Merc unit and with no "clutch" as such not much to go wrong. Try one before you buy, but i didnt and wasnt bothered. Now i have a manual 4.7 Vantage and the same question is mentioned in the Aston world "Sportshift or manual?" for different reasons i wanted manual as unlike Porsche's (IMS, bores etc etc) the weakest part of a Vantage is the clutch which is on both manual and "suto".

mollytherocker

14,459 posts

238 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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zulash said:
just contemplating buying a 997 and would have always gone for manual trans. however a car that has got my interest has tiptronic (never driven one). not a massive issue.but i would just welcome a few opinions. thanks. (not off you Jim!.)
Do a search on here and you will find its a hot topic. The truth is that there is no right or wrong, just your preference.

For some of us a manual gearbox is a the centre of car control, for others, its had its day.

You need to try the tip and if it suits you, then you know what to do!

V8KSN

4,713 posts

213 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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zulash said:
rather than knowing which transmision everyone prefers.... are there any specific issues/problems with the tiptronic box?
Have a read through the Hartech posts, I think (though I am not SURE) that bore scoring is more common in tiptronic equipped cars than with manuals.

pcn1

1,342 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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sidicks said:
Unless you need an automatic then NEVER consider a tiptronic over a manual!!
Or Vise Versa...........whistle

petop

2,378 posts

195 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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V8KSN said:
zulash said:
rather than knowing which transmision everyone prefers.... are there any specific issues/problems with the tiptronic box?
Have a read through the Hartech posts, I think (though I am not SURE) that bore scoring is more common in tiptronic equipped cars than with manuals.
It is due to the fact a Tip by default pulls away in 2nd. Couple that with a nicely warmed up engine after a spirited run and a heat soak at the traffic lights then a lightening start at green, the water in the channels boils away usually on the right bank of cylinders causing the bore scoring.

zulash

Original Poster:

202 posts

139 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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i'm a bit more pride and joy sort of guy now... opposed to traffic light racer! she's a 7 year old stunner. she doesn't have to 'bust a gut' against some knob in a scoobie. whistle

sticks090460

1,125 posts

187 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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At least you'll know it's never been over-revved. I live in London and would never consider a manual car unless it were a track-day toy or some such.

w5pwr

458 posts

219 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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I've had both, depends on what you want to use the car for? I brought a new C4S with tiptronic as a daily drive for commuting traffic and it was fine, when I changed it for a 997 Turbo and tried the Tiptronic but much preferred the manual, more fun and control, so I brought a manual.

Having had both I would probably go for manual, as said more control and fun to drive.

FarQue

2,339 posts

227 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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I've said this before and will probably again, but the tip 'box does take a few miles to learn how to get the best from it. On an initial test drive I doubt you'll be impressed. But, give it time and learn the 'box and it's not too bad. Not a patch on pdk mind!

ORD

18,186 posts

156 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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For God's sake don't buy a car with a gorgeous engine and stick an old-fashioned auto box between it and your right foot. Even PDK detracts from the experience; tiptronic is dire.

Xpuffin

9,209 posts

234 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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NA I'd say go manual
FI it's Tip.
Had both manual and Tip Turbos, still got the tip as it suits the cars character as a Grand Tourismo better.