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7,117 posts

237 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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What do people think of Montblanc watches? I really like the look of the black Timewalker Twinfly Chronograph, which I have seen for considerably less than RRP, but are these serious competition for something like an IWC Portuguese Chronograph?

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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Pens? Yes. Watches? Not really.

toon10

7,147 posts

188 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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GC8 said:
Pens? Yes. Watches? Not really.
I have to agree with this. I have a Mont Blanc pen and I'm very happy with it. I've not seen a watch of thiers I'd choose over something else. Saying that, watches are a personal thing so if you like it, go for it.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

264 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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I cannot help thinking they are hoping for some brand name confusion. I mean, there is a "blanc" in it.

Snubs

1,432 posts

170 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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As posted above, i think peoples perception is affected by the pens, much as Cartier is affected by their association with jewellery. Having said that, from what i've read they both make some terrific watches. Personally, i'd love a Blanc Rising hours:





Plus it has the benefit that those who dismiss it because of the brand don't know enough about watches. The cap-doff of appreciation will come from those who know thumbup

Asterix

24,438 posts

259 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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I've never really looked at the MB watches - do they make their own movements?

Snubs

1,432 posts

170 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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The short answer is 'yes'. WatchTime did a good article on it here if you want more detailed background: http://www.watchtime.com/featured/mountain-climbin...

Dempsey1971

383 posts

201 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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The Timewalker watches are lovely.
Great design. The Black face watch with the steel / ceramic bracelet is absolutely beautiful.

Miguel Alvarez

5,183 posts

201 months

Friday 13th March 2015
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A work colleague had one of the more "basic" range and it was very nice piece so I can only imagine the higher up the better they get.

yeti

10,697 posts

306 months

Friday 13th March 2015
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Snubs said:
Plus it has the benefit that those who dismiss it because of the brand don't know enough about watches. The cap-doff of appreciation will come from those who know thumbup
Actually, no it won't but do continue to congratulate yourself.

If you like the designs, why not. But they are hardly masterpieces, just another Richemont brand pushing hard to make something different with Valfleurier designers / CNC programmers.

tigerkoi

2,927 posts

229 months

Friday 13th March 2015
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Meisterstuck Heritage Range



Orbis Terrarum

Montblanc have been batting it out of the park in recent years. Perpetual Calendars, world timers, their Bi-Cylindrique with its pioneering doubled up balance springs....

Sure, the 'Tourbillon Cylindrique Geosphères Vasco da Gama' is an absolute monster to twist your tongue around, let alone partner with your wrist (47ml), but forget that for a minute and appreciate the sheer ambition of the company.

They're on a fascinating and fairly overt brand building journey, and the outward recognition of that has been some great reception at recent SIHH and Basel events. On the seven stages or whatever they call it, of brand development, towards becoming full-on high equity and fully formed, they're maybe hovering around the 'favoured' or 'distinctive' stage. Definitely eliciting customer reactions that are closer to resonance than mere salience, and that can only be done when they are pumping out visually arresting, price provoking and feature (read: complication) rich timepieces.

The little Lord Fauntleroys out there might struggle with the product continuum - eau d'homme one end, tourbillons at the other - and think there is something highly irregular about a mere 'luxury' brand dabbling in high-end horology...but the world would be a sad place if all there was, was AP, PP & VC to choose from.

Watch-land can be a bit of a parochial place, everyone seemingly hung-up on what they think are the only products a particular brand has enough equity to carry, but read for a minute James Dowling's Villeret review. An almost Damascene conversion!













GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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Where to start? Mont Blanc make lovely pens and they have done for a long time. Mont Blanc had nothing at all to do with watchmaking, beyond the fact that some people with nice watches will have a nice pen too.

As is always the case after a 'luxury group' buy-out, the name is soon being pimped for all that it is worth and this happened to MB: leather cases, mens jewellery and eventually watches. They have no history or tradition - theyre simply seen as a high return product that can be introduced to cash-in on the established brand name.

I quite liked Minerva. I have a 12hr stopwatch / rally timer and it is brilliant, but they sacrificed a manufacturer with real history to feed a start-up cash-in with no history or tradition at all.

Edited by GC8 on Saturday 14th March 15:37

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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Snubs said:
Plus it has the benefit that those who dismiss it because of the brand don't know enough about watches. The cap-doff of appreciation will come from those who know
Am I not in the know, or do you not know quite as much as you think?

PJ S

10,842 posts

258 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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tigerkoi said:
Montblanc have been batting it out of the park in recent years. Perpetual Calendars, world timers, their Bi-Cylindrique with its pioneering doubled up balance springs....

Sure, the 'Tourbillon Cylindrique Geosphères Vasco da Gama' is an absolute monster to twist your tongue around, let alone partner with your wrist (47ml), but forget that for a minute and appreciate the sheer ambition of the company.

They're on a fascinating and fairly overt brand building journey, and the outward recognition of that has been some great reception at recent SIHH and Basel events. On the seven stages or whatever they call it, of brand development, towards becoming full-on high equity and fully formed, they're maybe hovering around the 'favoured' or 'distinctive' stage. Definitely eliciting customer reactions that are closer to resonance than mere salience, and that can only be done when they are pumping out visually arresting, price provoking and feature (read: complication) rich timepieces.

The little Lord Fauntleroys out there might struggle with the product continuum - eau d'homme one end, tourbillons at the other - and think there is something highly irregular about a mere 'luxury' brand dabbling in high-end horology...but the world would be a sad place if all there was, was AP, PP & VC to choose from.

Watch-land can be a bit of a parochial place, everyone seemingly hung-up on what they think are the only products a particular brand has enough equity to carry, but read for a minute James Dowling's Villeret review. An almost Damascene conversion!
Excellently put, and agree that Montblanc have quietly just been getting on with it.
Like a few brands, they're quite often overlooked due to being infrequently suggested/recommended.


@GC8 - history is overrated and has absolutely bugger all to do with how good a design or engineered anything is.

Edited by PJ S on Saturday 14th March 14:16

Stu R

21,684 posts

246 months

Saturday 14th March 2015
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Plenty of crap watches have lots of history, plenty of good watches have little. I don't care.

Personally I like some of MB's watches. I doubt I'd ever buy one as there's hundreds if not thousands of other watches I also like, but I've nothing against them or the fact they're a successful brand.

Crap pens though.