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I will be installing an eleven seater cinema room in a development that I'm completing in Glasgow for August this year.
I have a budget of £10k including VAT for the AV equipment fully installed.
I will provide a furnished room with all the power, rj45 sockets and coax cable (connected to an aerial) you will need, however you will need to provide any/all interconnects, speaker cable, power leads etc along with the cabinet for the equipment.
I need a projector solution that can play optical media and live/freeview TV (sports events and the like). Screen can be fixed or drop down. The install must be user friendly and easily/centrally controlled - I don't want a solution based on seven separate remote controls.
As I say, I am looking for a turn key, installed and commissioned solution.
Please PM me if you think you can help.
Thanks
Ben
I will be installing an eleven seater cinema room in a development that I'm completing in Glasgow for August this year.
I have a budget of £10k including VAT for the AV equipment fully installed.
I will provide a furnished room with all the power, rj45 sockets and coax cable (connected to an aerial) you will need, however you will need to provide any/all interconnects, speaker cable, power leads etc along with the cabinet for the equipment.
I need a projector solution that can play optical media and live/freeview TV (sports events and the like). Screen can be fixed or drop down. The install must be user friendly and easily/centrally controlled - I don't want a solution based on seven separate remote controls.
As I say, I am looking for a turn key, installed and commissioned solution.
Please PM me if you think you can help.
Thanks
Ben
Loving how you are telling me my budget is tight in the same post as you say that you are all off on a skiing jaunt together. Considering that it seats 11 people, you probably aren't going to get away with an all-in-one system and a £500 projector, so I agree the budget looks tight (and I'm not an installer, I just put my own projector/screen/AV system in myself). I know that I spent over your budget just on hardware (mostly bought used/ex demo) and installed it myself, so don't think the retailers are necessarily taking the pee regarding budgets (though I agree I had to smile at the skiing comment 
).
).Skiing doesn't have to be expensive if your prepared to do it on a budget or if you enjoy it so much you sacrifice a summer holiday for it.
There isnt as much money in equipment as people think, especially with electronics and Internet sellers & forgetters
Drop me the PM and I'll pass it on.
V.
There isnt as much money in equipment as people think, especially with electronics and Internet sellers & forgetters
Drop me the PM and I'll pass it on.
V.
Skiing doesn't have to be expensive if your prepared to do it on a budget or if you enjoy it so much you sacrifice a summer holiday for it.
There isnt as much money in equipment as people think, especially with electronics and Internet sellers & forgetters
Drop me the PM and I'll pass it on.
V.
There isnt as much money in equipment as people think, especially with electronics and Internet sellers & forgetters
Drop me the PM and I'll pass it on.
V.
I will PM you V, thanks for your help.
I guess I may not be being clear enough. I'm currently developing a building and will be putting a cinema room in it. Everything building and furnishing wise will be provided outside of this budget. So seating, fancy lighting, power, data, wall, floor and ceiling finishes all covered elsewhere.
My £10k budget is for essentially a projector, a screen, blu ray player, an amp, a cabinet, speaker/interconnect cables and some speakers/sub delivered and installed on site. I don't think the budget is that bad?
A cursory 'what hifi' look suggests £1500 projector, £600 screen, £1,500 amp, £2,000 speaker package, say £300 for cabling, £400 cabinet?, blu ray £150 or maybe PS4 so around say £6,500 for the obvious gear alone and that's at retail. Tell me I'm wrong
I guess I may not be being clear enough. I'm currently developing a building and will be putting a cinema room in it. Everything building and furnishing wise will be provided outside of this budget. So seating, fancy lighting, power, data, wall, floor and ceiling finishes all covered elsewhere.
My £10k budget is for essentially a projector, a screen, blu ray player, an amp, a cabinet, speaker/interconnect cables and some speakers/sub delivered and installed on site. I don't think the budget is that bad?
A cursory 'what hifi' look suggests £1500 projector, £600 screen, £1,500 amp, £2,000 speaker package, say £300 for cabling, £400 cabinet?, blu ray £150 or maybe PS4 so around say £6,500 for the obvious gear alone and that's at retail. Tell me I'm wrong
If it's a decent sized room (which the 11 seats suggests it is) then I think a £2000 speaker set up might struggle to fill a bigger room at decent levels. You could easily spend that £2000 just on two subwoofers suitable for a bigger room (for example MK Sound V12 at £995 each).
You don't mention how many speakers you plan on, but again for a dedicated room 5.1 is scrimping it really IMHO. These days 7.1 is more like it, then you have Atmos/Auro 3D/DTS:X (the later not officially released yet in terms of amps that will provide it). Therefore you could easily spend another £2-3k on the speakers. So by the time you'd added you amp, player and a decent screen you'd already be at your budget without the installation costs included.
A £600 screen will likely curl and wrinkle after a bit of use if it is a motorised one, again spending more on a decent tab tensioned one tend to avoid that (mine is over 6 years old and is as flat as when new, but it cost about £1,300 IIRC). If it is a fixed screen, then going for acoustically transparent material might be an option as you could then mount the speakers behind it for a much neater installation (and more cinematic experience). Again, it won't be cheap and sometimes requires a brighter projector to combat the reduced 'gain' of the screen due to the micro perforations.
As with anything, the sky is the limit, but the installers have to make something on the labour side, so what might seem a fairly expansive budget is, in reality, likely to end up with a fairly middling quality set up, or at least one which might struggle in a larger room. Perhaps that will still be impressive, especially for those not experienced with really high end set ups (and mine doesn't qualify on that count either, but I have seen quite a few installations that qualify).
I asked to put together a shopping list for a developer friend a few years ago and was astounded to find that he expected to do the whole room for £3k and the house sold for nearly £2 million I believe. I think his was more of a 'box ticking' exercise though, a bit like the 'cinema rooms' you sometime see on 'Grand Designs' which are inevitably painted white and use a £300 projector and a basic all in one sound system.
It just depends on what you expect to achieve and what your expectations are really as Vex says.
You don't mention how many speakers you plan on, but again for a dedicated room 5.1 is scrimping it really IMHO. These days 7.1 is more like it, then you have Atmos/Auro 3D/DTS:X (the later not officially released yet in terms of amps that will provide it). Therefore you could easily spend another £2-3k on the speakers. So by the time you'd added you amp, player and a decent screen you'd already be at your budget without the installation costs included.
A £600 screen will likely curl and wrinkle after a bit of use if it is a motorised one, again spending more on a decent tab tensioned one tend to avoid that (mine is over 6 years old and is as flat as when new, but it cost about £1,300 IIRC). If it is a fixed screen, then going for acoustically transparent material might be an option as you could then mount the speakers behind it for a much neater installation (and more cinematic experience). Again, it won't be cheap and sometimes requires a brighter projector to combat the reduced 'gain' of the screen due to the micro perforations.
As with anything, the sky is the limit, but the installers have to make something on the labour side, so what might seem a fairly expansive budget is, in reality, likely to end up with a fairly middling quality set up, or at least one which might struggle in a larger room. Perhaps that will still be impressive, especially for those not experienced with really high end set ups (and mine doesn't qualify on that count either, but I have seen quite a few installations that qualify).
I asked to put together a shopping list for a developer friend a few years ago and was astounded to find that he expected to do the whole room for £3k and the house sold for nearly £2 million I believe. I think his was more of a 'box ticking' exercise though, a bit like the 'cinema rooms' you sometime see on 'Grand Designs' which are inevitably painted white and use a £300 projector and a basic all in one sound system.
It just depends on what you expect to achieve and what your expectations are really as Vex says.
No, I certainly appreciate that the sky is the limit particularly when it comes to hifi. I've done the £000's on hifi thing and emerged on the other side once I realised that I appreciated the convenience of streaming sound around the place over the sound quality. I just don't buy into the latest fad BS anymore (sorry, I know I'm a heathen), so the latest whatever sound benchmark is irrelevant to me. I just don't see the value in chasing ever diminishing returns, but fully appreciate and respect that others do of course.
BUT...
OSRS, thanks that's an excellent post. It is for a cinema room in a student resi scheme, so that the students can enjoy films, watch the football etc. This isn't a man cave thing in a £2m house (where I appreciate that the budget would need to be increased somewhat as it's as much about willy waving as the performance).
Having previously held an interest in hifi, I know that the proposal that I currently have is crap. My sketchy outline budget is there to be commented on (just as you have helpfully done). It's precisely the 'well you'd be better off spending £2k on subs or and extra £1k on a sub + extra £1k on the screen' advice that I need from a retailer to pull together a system that will suit its intended purpose rather than be something you would have in your own house. I am purposefully trying to remain impartial about it (because I know I really want to get involved in it) and treat it no differently from the reception desk, choice of light fittings etc.
BUT...
OSRS, thanks that's an excellent post. It is for a cinema room in a student resi scheme, so that the students can enjoy films, watch the football etc. This isn't a man cave thing in a £2m house (where I appreciate that the budget would need to be increased somewhat as it's as much about willy waving as the performance).
Having previously held an interest in hifi, I know that the proposal that I currently have is crap. My sketchy outline budget is there to be commented on (just as you have helpfully done). It's precisely the 'well you'd be better off spending £2k on subs or and extra £1k on a sub + extra £1k on the screen' advice that I need from a retailer to pull together a system that will suit its intended purpose rather than be something you would have in your own house. I am purposefully trying to remain impartial about it (because I know I really want to get involved in it) and treat it no differently from the reception desk, choice of light fittings etc.
Ah, makes a big difference than the 2 million pound house verses a student lodge. I too don't buy into the latest thing either, I tend to buy older, but high end used stuff and stay a little behind the curve these days. The essential stuff like decent speakers, subs and screen last for years anyway, so I felt were worth spending on.
Just knowing that stuff is coming, can still help make sensible purchases now, so it's not a bad thing just being aware.
Since 4K, Atmos and possibly 3D isn't a requirement, you may be able to make some wise buys on models that are discontinued (or about to be). However, don't bank on the dealer to point these out to you. But no harm in asking on here what we think of any suggested systems.
Just knowing that stuff is coming, can still help make sensible purchases now, so it's not a bad thing just being aware.
Since 4K, Atmos and possibly 3D isn't a requirement, you may be able to make some wise buys on models that are discontinued (or about to be). However, don't bank on the dealer to point these out to you.
But no harm in asking on here what we think of any suggested systems. Gassing Station | Home Cinema & Hi-Fi | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff