EVO MURCIELAGO

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icepop

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1,177 posts

208 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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WOW, just catching up on my back editions, and noticed one of the staff has a Murcialago, (which was heavily crashed and now coming to the end of a rebuild), on a mileage of 235k !!!!! It's a 2001 car. Now alot is made of how useable the Porsche 911's are, and how fragile the Italian marques are, but this motor must be up there with the best high milage'rs. Well done bully !!!! any on a higher mileage out there ?

ssray

1,102 posts

226 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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simonspider on here, all questions answered , no bs, seem`s like a nice bloke

simonspider

1,327 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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It's 258k actually. Probably not worth much more than a sack of carrots but hey ho. It's in Lambo Manchester right now being finished off. When it is its back in Evo and will be my daily driver again. Next doors dogs won't be happy

Gandahar

9,600 posts

129 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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simonspider said:
It's 258k actually. Probably not worth much more than a sack of carrots but hey ho. It's in Lambo Manchester right now being finished off. When it is its back in Evo and will be my daily driver again. Next doors dogs won't be happy
Are you still happy you took the plunge for the rebuild. I got the idea you were slightly undecided and the rebuild seems to have, as these things do, a lot of twists and turns along the way.

It's fantastic to have such a high mileage car though, real conversation piece of course. Enjoy driving it when it's finished, I am assuming only you will be in the seat from now on. smile

WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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1,000,000 mile Murci is the dream and you're 1/4th of the way there!

simonspider

1,327 posts

250 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Gandahar said:
Are you still happy you took the plunge for the rebuild. I got the idea you were slightly undecided and the rebuild seems to have, as these things do, a lot of twists and turns along the way.

It's fantastic to have such a high mileage car though, real conversation piece of course. Enjoy driving it when it's finished, I am assuming only you will be in the seat from now on. smile
Thanks for the comments. No, I didn't ever consider not rebuilding it but given the time it would take and the parts needed to repair I knew it would be a long haul and not economic but given its sentimentality it was always going to be done.

Incidentally the LP640 is coming up to 90,000 miles now. The one thing about these V12's is they are so robust even under heavy track use. It's going in for a top and bottom rebuild in July but doesn't smoke and still pulls like a train. Still on the original chains too.


Ferruccio

1,837 posts

120 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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[quote=simonspider

Incidentally the LP640 is coming up to 90,000 miles now. The one thing about these V12's is they are so robust even under heavy track use. It's going in for a top and bottom rebuild in July but doesn't smoke and still pulls like a train. Still on the original chains too.


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So why the rebuild?

simonspider

1,327 posts

250 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Ferruccio said:
So why the rebuild?
Cos I don't want to risk an enormous bill if it does let go. It does happen. Preventative maintenance..

robinessex

11,066 posts

182 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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simonspider said:
Ferruccio said:
So why the rebuild?
Cos I don't want to risk an enormous bill if it does let go. It does happen. Preventative maintenance..
In that case, what your guarding against is fatigue failure. Thus all the moving bits at least would need to be changed. And if you're pedantic, so would the cylinder block as well. This experiences cyclic loading, and as aluminium doesn't have an infinite faigue life, unlike steel which does at low stress levels, this needs to go a well. Opps, no engine left now !!! This is why airplanes, during a major service, have lots of their bits scrapped. Exceeded their design life. I'd leave it alone, as it seeems to be running fine, and search e-bay for a spare engine in case of a big bang.

simonspider

1,327 posts

250 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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robinessex said:
In that case, what your guarding against is fatigue failure. Thus all the moving bits at least would need to be changed. And if you're pedantic, so would the cylinder block as well. This experiences cyclic loading, and as aluminium doesn't have an infinite faigue life, unlike steel which does at low stress levels, this needs to go a well. Opps, no engine left now !!! This is why airplanes, during a major service, have lots of their bits scrapped. Exceeded their design life. I'd leave it alone, as it seeems to be running fine, and search e-bay for a spare engine in case of a big bang.
Thanks for the advice. I fly a helicopter in my spare time so I know all about metal fatigue and the dangers of it.
Since I've a few other cars (20 odd I think) in my humble experience if you wait till they let go you're in for a bigger bill than if you don't.

catfood12

1,419 posts

143 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Simon, what hot oil pressure at idle do you see on the 6.2 ? My 35K miles 6.2 is only idling at around 1.5 bar. Not sure if it was always that low....

jdwcd

2,517 posts

203 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Morning Simon

Can you tell be what brake pads you have been using on the 640. I need to get a set.

Ta

simonspider

1,327 posts

250 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Hi chaps 1.5 bar is ok when warm. When the mileage starts to clock up over 60k changing to a thicker oil helps. Agip do one I think its a 10/40. That said the end is nigh when the oil pressure warning light starts to flicker on and off on idle. Time for a top end then.. Both the above comments are true for the 640 & Murcielago.

simonspider

1,327 posts

250 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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jdwcd said:
Morning Simon

Can you tell be what brake pads you have been using on the 640. I need to get a set.

Ta
Hi yea the 640 runs with Pagid Yellows from Mode in Silverstone. Mine has steel discs mind! Don't put them on Ceramics smile

catfood12

1,419 posts

143 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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simonspider said:
Hi chaps 1.5 bar is ok when warm. When the mileage starts to clock up over 60k changing to a thicker oil helps. Agip do one I think its a 10/40. That said the end is nigh when the oil pressure warning light starts to flicker on and off on idle. Time for a top end then.. Both the above comments are true for the 640 & Murcielago.
Cheers fella. The crackpot service adviser told me I needed valve guides at 30K miles, as that's what's recommended. I just laughed.