PCCB's on EBay

[jfp]

It never ceases to amaze me the scrap that is advertised on eBay:

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=...

For anyone out there looking for these note that wear is measured via mass not rotor width and heavily oxidised friction faces like these are fit for the bin. One could assume the bells are of use...

[m33ufo]

Not tempted by the "make offer" option?

[wycoller]

m33ufo said:

Not tempted by the "make offer" option?

Mark can you sniff a pRofit just sent Front discs to Wolfgang at Sicom let you know the results i,m confident they will be excEllent fix, he stated that the early 996 ceramics are not that good. he stated mine ex yours were typical failure

[m33ufo]

Hi Jim,

They can last almost indefinitely on the road but often suffer on the track. The later generation discs were improved over the originals but they can still go the same way. I spotted a set from a 991 GT3 recently which looked almost identical to those above.

[jfp]

wycoller said:

Mark can you sniff a pRofit just sent Front discs to Wolfgang at Sicom let you know the results i,m confident they will be excEllent fix, he stated that the early 996 ceramics are not that good. he stated mine ex yours were typical failure

I'd be interested to see how you get on. Having been to the SGL plant to see their manufacturing process (I have worked with them on 3 OEM programmes for VAG), I cant see how discs that bad can be refurbed - but if they can then great. Come to think of it I'm sure we have a shagged PCCB we could send for refurb, then put through a rigorous dyno session to see how it fairs. I guess that way we could find out for good. There are loads of these around so I guess it makes sense.

[jfp]

m33ufo said:

Hi Jim,

They can last almost indefinitely on the road but often suffer on the track. The later generation discs were improved over the originals but they can still go the same way. I spotted a set from a 991 GT3 recently which looked almost identical to those above.

Here's your old car having the iron discs fitted at HQ - forgot I had this photo.... From memory the ceramics were pretty rooted.

[m33ufo]

The rears were ok, the fronts were pitted but nowhere near as bad as the ones for sale on Ebay.

The ceramics still worked well but the surface takes its toll on the pads.

When I bought the car from Mr Huff it had the ceramics back on and the steels supplied separately. Big issue with the Alcon discs as supplied from Rob is that they came with oem pads. They needed RS29's or similar to improve the performance which I never got around buying.

[wycoller]

jfp said:

Here's your old car having the iron discs fitted at HQ - forgot I had this photo.... From memory the ceramics were pretty rooted.

cheers if you wish i can send the SICOM repaired units down to you as long as your test is non destructive
Wolfgang said the condition was typical and not to bad as Mark states

[wycoller]

m33ufo said:

The rears were ok, the fronts were pitted but nowhere near as bad as the ones for sale on Ebay.

The ceramics still worked well but the surface takes its toll on the pads.

When I bought the car from Mr Huff it had the ceramics back on and the steels supplied separately. Big issue with the Alcon discs as supplied from Rob is that they came with oem pads. They needed RS29's or similar to improve the performance which I never got around buying.

thanks for that mark the OEM pads being for Ceramic discs ????

[wycoller]

jfp said:

I'd be interested to see how you get on. Having been to the SGL plant to see their manufacturing process (I have worked with them on 3 OEM programmes for VAG), I cant see how discs that bad can be refurbed - but if they can then great. Come to think of it I'm sure we have a shagged PCCB we could send for refurb, then put through a rigorous dyno session to see how it fairs. I guess that way we could find out for good. There are loads of these around so I guess it makes sense.

ill keep you posted and send some photos etc.
i willnt be driving the car that hard to stress the brakes maybe later on in the year when i,m used to the car i,, track it

[m33ufo]

wycoller said:

m33ufo said:

The rears were ok, the fronts were pitted but nowhere near as bad as the ones for sale on Ebay.

The ceramics still worked well but the surface takes its toll on the pads.

When I bought the car from Mr Huff it had the ceramics back on and the steels supplied separately. Big issue with the Alcon discs as supplied from Rob is that they came with oem pads. They needed RS29's or similar to improve the performance which I never got around buying.

thanks for that mark the OEM pads being for Ceramic discs ????

Hey Jim,

No, the Porsche OEM pads for ccb discs are fine - you should buy new ones for your refurbished discs though.

I was talking about the OEM pads for steels not being the best for the Alcon discs. You really need something more aggressive like RS29's to get better results from them.

[wycoller]

m33ufo said:

Hey Jim,

No, the Porsche OEM pads for ccb discs are fine - you should buy new ones for your refurbished discs though.

I was talking about the OEM pads for steels not being the best for the Alcon discs. You really need something more aggressive like RS29's to get better results from them.

Ok thanks Mark start Sea Trials today in 4 weeks should be home then get to drive the car
How bad are the waste gate actuators I know these are not the originals

[wycoller]

m33ufo said:

Hey Jim,

No, the Porsche OEM pads for ccb discs are fine - you should buy new ones for your refurbished discs though.

I was talking about the OEM pads for steels not being the best for the Alcon discs. You really need something more aggressive like RS29's to get better results from them.

Ok thanks Mark start Sea Trials today in 4 weeks should be home then get to drive the car
How bad are the waste gate actuators I know these are not the originals

[m33ufo]

wycoller said:

m33ufo said:

Hey Jim,

No, the Porsche OEM pads for ccb discs are fine - you should buy new ones for your refurbished discs though.

I was talking about the OEM pads for steels not being the best for the Alcon discs. You really need something more aggressive like RS29's to get better results from them.

Ok thanks Mark start Sea Trials today in 4 weeks should be home then get to drive the car
How bad are the waste gate actuators I know these are not the originals

They are fine. Just some surface rust.