Any sea bourne fighter pilots on here
Any sea bourne fighter pilots on here
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dkatwa

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578 posts

274 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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was wondering if there are any jet fighter pilots on here who regularly launch using catapults.....how does the acceleration compare to say, a lambo or ferrari...
I don't mean in terms of absolute speeds, but in terms of the load on the body for, say, a 10 second period...
My feeling is that a fighter taking off on catapult would be a liner savage acceleration, whereas a car would be linear, then pause whilst changing gear, then liner, pause, etc

No point to this thread...was just wondering...after seeing Sky News footage just now of the US navel force in the Gulf...impressive firepower

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

161 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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The level of acceleration for a steam catapult launch will be far in excess of any supercar launch. Perhaps 4g or 5g?

tontoro

3,516 posts

272 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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"This totally steam-driven system can rocket a 45,000-pound plane from 0 to 165 miles per hour (a 20,000-kg plane from 0 to 266 kph) in two seconds!"

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

276 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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Simpo Two said:
Wow, the pilot needs to work on his gear changes. The passenger almost snapped his neck when he changed up into 2nd!

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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Shuvi McTupya said:
Wow, the pilot needs to work on his gear changes. The passenger almost snapped his neck when he changed up into 2nd!
That's the relative deceleration, which just shows how much grunt a catapult has. The more I see it the more amazed I am. And when he lands, he's looking left to the landing system not to the front. You'd think he was driving along a country lane...

Edited by Simpo Two on Saturday 4th April 18:38

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

276 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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Simpo Two said:
That's the relative deceleration, which just shows how much grunt a catapult has. The more I see it the more amazed I am. And when he lands, he's looking left to the landing system not to the front. You'd think he was driving along a country lane ]
Pretty sure that was goose that we were watching on the landing, not Mav..

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

161 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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Sopwith Pups could take off in about 15 feet (no catapult). I'm sure that Swordfish could land vertically (relative to the carrier deck) given the right wind conditions, there'll be some calculations somewhere.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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Biplanes have such a slow landing speed that it was possible, in earlier carrier operations, for deck crew to grab the aircraft as it almost hovered over the deck and manhandle it down.

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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Eric Mc said:
Biplanes have such a slow landing speed that it was possible, in earlier carrier operations, for deck crew to grab the aircraft as it almost hovered over the deck and manhandle it down.
There was one of those slightly odd documentaries on TV yesterday about the history of the aircraft carrier. I thought what a strange overlap of technologies that saw a biplane (Swordfish) carrying radar (anti-sub centimetric). One more step would be a Sopwith Camel with satnav...

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

161 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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Simpo Two said:
There was one of those slightly odd documentaries on TV yesterday about the history of the aircraft carrier. I thought what a strange overlap of technologies that saw a biplane (Swordfish) carrying radar (anti-sub centimetric). One more step would be a Sopwith Camel with satnav...
Only about nine years in terms of Swordfish entering service and Swordfish equipped with ASW radar.

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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Perhaps we should make some more Swordfish. They might fit on our ships.

'Incoming bogies at 100kts Comrade Ivanski'
'Nonsenski, nothing flies that slow, it must seagulls. Stand down; back to the wodka'.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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Although the Swordfish was a biplane, it was a lot more sophisticated than a World War 1 biplane.

Matt Harper

7,026 posts

230 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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The concept of applying full-power on landing is what blows my mind. Watch Speed & Angels on YouTube for some great insight. Listening to and seeing the pilot's reactions during 'Megan's First Cat-Shoot' is totally awesome.
F-14 though, not F-18 or Sopwith.

Edited - this is it (a little sweary)
https://youtu.be/2XvKsCYxOk8

Edited by Matt Harper on Sunday 5th April 15:10

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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Eric Mc said:
Biplanes have such a slow landing speed that it was possible, in earlier carrier operations, for deck crew to grab the aircraft as it almost hovered over the deck and manhandle it down.
Bet they ducked under the prop as it went overhead (or hopefully over their heads!) ;-)