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DSLiverpool

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16,498 posts

231 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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I don't have it but one of my employees says they do and spends about 30 mins a day in the loo - say 6 visits of 5 mins or longer.
I think its unusual but I am not a doc - can anyone enlighten me and what can be done to make it less of an issue.

Muzzer79

13,032 posts

216 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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It's a very individual condition - different things set it off for different people.

People find that something works for a while, then all of a sudden doesn't.

Most people have trigger foods that they know to avoid

The symptoms your friend has could be construed as fairly easy going in IBS world...!

As an employer, it's just something you have to accept.

DSLiverpool

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16,498 posts

231 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Drinks energy drinks all day and eats crap - should an employer have to accept that! its self inflicted in my opinion - once again we need our HR advisor frown

T5SOR

2,030 posts

254 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Interestingly I think I have this. It started with blood, but has now come on all of a sudden and now i get cramps, wind and need the toilet 4-5 times a day. If I drink coffee or red wine or have coconut milk I seem to suffer worst. I have a Sigmoidoscopy next week to rule out the nasty stuff. When it hits I seem to have no energy.

Anyone else have IBS or similar to my problems?

T5SOR

2,030 posts

254 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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I go to the gym 2-3 times a week, eat healthy, 7 portions of fruit a day and generally look after myself. I had Bladder Cancer last year, but this can't be related.

captainmatt

475 posts

195 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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DSLiverpool said:
I don't have it but one of my employees says they do and spends about 30 mins a day in the loo - say 6 visits of 5 mins or longer.
I think its unusual but I am not a doc - can anyone enlighten me and what can be done to make it less of an issue.
Sounds about right for a flare up - sounds like mine when it first kicked off. It comes and goes, good days and bad days. Her eating a load of muck isn't going to help and caffeine is a definite no-no as it just makes your bowels move faster, but there's not going to be anything you can do about it. I don't know if getting a doctors note would be a viable thing so at least you have some evidence, but genuinely if you have it, having someone breathing down your neck about it DOES NOT HELP. It can be very stress related, so go easy.

Oakey

27,981 posts

245 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Pizza usually does it for me. Within about 5 hours of eating one it'll feel like I've been kicked in the gut. Normally most foods would take about 24 hours to pass but not pizza!

I don't eat pizza anymore.

Some cheeses will also sometimes give me a bad gut, I try to avoid most of those. Crumbly cheese in moderation seems okay.

It can be very uncomfortable and toilet habits can be somewhat irregular. You can empty your bowels significantly as normal and think "well there can't possibly be any more of that" and then hours later you might suddenly feel the urge to go again.

But I agree with the above, the more stressed you are the worse it gets!

halo34

2,890 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Hate it with a vengeance - it can ruin a simple task quite happily like just going for a walk if it wants.

As per above everyone gets it differently.

I think if an employer raises it, its with severe caution - never been raised in all my career and I would find it odd being highlighted.

Signed off sick would be less productive.

DSLiverpool

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16,498 posts

231 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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halo34 said:
Hate it with a vengeance - it can ruin a simple task quite happily like just going for a walk if it wants.

As per above everyone gets it differently.

I think if an employer raises it, its with severe caution - never been raised in all my career and I would find it odd being highlighted.

Signed off sick would be less productive.
Wouldn't a sufferer have a duty of care to oneself - drinking red bull and eating petrol station buttys cant help.

SAS Tom

3,754 posts

203 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Sounds about right. Doesn't sound so bad at 5 minutes per visit. Could be 30 minutes per visit for those 5 or 6 visits. I was even worse than that at times.

Doesnt sound like she is helping herself but everyone is different. Everyone told me to eat loads of veg but when I saw the dietician avoiding veg was one of the things that helped most. It's down to the person to work out what makes it worse and how to manage it. Doctors seemed pretty useless as they simply don't know.

BRISTOL86

545 posts

193 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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DSLiverpool said:
Wouldn't a sufferer have a duty of care to oneself - drinking red bull and eating petrol station buttys cant help.
Erm, how can you say that those foods and drinks make his condition worse? As others have said its a very personal condition and different things are bad for different people.

Either way I'm not sure posting info on your employees medical conditions online is the best way of approaching the issue with the person!

halo34

2,890 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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DSLiverpool said:
Wouldn't a sufferer have a duty of care to oneself - drinking red bull and eating petrol station buttys cant help.
You would have to prove beyond doubt it contributes I suspect - employers only have a certain degree of influence over what people do, quite rightly.

For me it would step over the mark regardless of the type of illness involved and that's a manager not a sufferer.

This is definitely an HR area.

croyde

26,303 posts

259 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Interesting about avoiding veg as whenever I make the effort to eat healthy my suffering gets worse.

I was watching a doco the other day about how crap the western diet was and the presenter was in Mauritius, I think, and him and a local ate a tin of sweet corn in the evening.

The local's had all come out in the morning whilst the presenter reckoned it would be another day until he saw the corn again. Claimed that was bad and a result of our poor diet.

Weird thing is whatever I eat in the evening is out again by the morning. Must be why, even in my 50s I'm still reasonably trim biggrin

halo34

2,890 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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5/2 fasting had the biggest impact for me. It allows a system reset apparently - hard to do at times though.

Got back on that a month or two back and it made a difference very quickly.

Course part of it is a link back to stress levels, being conscious of it constantly adds to the stress!

HarryFlatters

4,203 posts

241 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Are you sure that your colleague isn't playing Angry Birds on his phone?

zedstar

1,784 posts

205 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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I have it and it varies massively depending on factors that I am not aware of. Sometimes I feel 100% fine and sometimes I feel crap. About 4 years ago I had a pizza and one of my friends put some chilli oil on. The next day I had more frequent BM's, gut ache and felt generally bloated. This lasted for 6 months ish and then I took Yakult for 4 weeks.

Yakult made zilcho difference to my IBS symptoms but made me feel generally unwell. Stopped the Yakult and my body then pretty much returned to normal. As in 95% fine. Strange. It obviously had some effect somewhere. Currently i'm in a bad period, feel crap in the mornings but generally ok in the afternoon. Like another poster said it can ruin going for a walk, or a holiday, or a night out etc.

Lots of stuff i've been reading recently talks about the effect of parasites and how they can replicate IBS symptoms. Foreign travel etc can often give you this issue. My symptoms have been worse since i went on a stag to Magaluf. I should mention I got food poisoning there and was hospitalised for a week before they let me go home. I'm tempted to get myself tested for this once I find a decent UK clinic.

Anyway i'm going off topic but IBS is different for everyone and OP you may find that the employee has exactly the same symptoms no matter what he eats...

ChrisR99

453 posts

140 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Could be other things instead of IBS, Crohns and UC have similar effects.

mickk

30,438 posts

271 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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My wife suffered with this and was told to stop taking sweeteners in her coffee and tea, seemed to work for her.

Everyone's different I suppose.

Dolf Stoppard

1,391 posts

151 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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I hope your employee isn't on PH. Your profile with a picture of an Infiniti and a personal plate probably makes you quite easy to identify...

Oakey

27,981 posts

245 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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croyde said:
Interesting about avoiding veg as whenever I make the effort to eat healthy my suffering gets worse.

I was watching a doco the other day about how crap the western diet was and the presenter was in Mauritius, I think, and him and a local ate a tin of sweet corn in the evening.

The local's had all come out in the morning whilst the presenter reckoned it would be another day until he saw the corn again. Claimed that was bad and a result of our poor diet.

Weird thing is whatever I eat in the evening is out again by the morning. Must be why, even in my 50s I'm still reasonably trim biggrin
Funnily enough sweetcorn is one of the things that make me rough as fk. I may as well have eaten a bag of gravel as that'd what it feels like in my system.