House of Commons racial equality rant.
House of Commons racial equality rant.
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love machine

Original Poster:

7,609 posts

257 months

Wednesday 19th January 2005
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I have just been watching the rotbox and looking at the latest unnecessary nonsense.

There are not enough non-whites in the house of commons. I think the stats were

Labour 14 (Hooray, aren't they great?)
Lib 2
Cons 0.

They then said "population of the country by non whites =8%" Percentage of non-white MP's in the commons about 0.0062% or about that......

There are a lot less than 8% non-whites in the South West. Try about 0.025% perhaps.

How about longhairs? Can I be an MP too?

Bloody positive discrimination, it's as bad a rascism.

GRRRRRRRRR!

Edit:- I would just add that I am not racist in any way (apart from bloody northerners) and I merely am stating my displeasure at positive discrimination.


>>> Edited by love machine on Wednesday 19th January 11:48

Plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Wednesday 19th January 2005
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So are they suggesting removing white elected representatives with their non-white equivalents to make the numbers better?

Its all gone to the dogs. Sadly.

v8thunder

27,647 posts

280 months

Wednesday 19th January 2005
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As I always say - there is no such thing as positive discrimination. If you discriminate against one group 'positively', you are discriminating against another, and that group is increasingly in this country the white, middle-class, middle-aged, home-owning heterosexual motoring man, an absolutely vast group the government no longer takes into consideration when drafting legislation, as to do so would, in their eyes, be 'racist'

Why can't they just accept that, perhaps, there are certain people who want to do the job and some who don't. Actually, that's a lie. I think this country's running on a giant 'white middle class'-guilt complex that scares away minority group MPs who would bring a sense of normality to the situation.

'Positive' discrimination is not the key, but just cutting the crap and getting down to running the country sensibly is. If I was a young Black politician wanting to make my way into the House of Commons, I certainly wouldn't want to do it via a party that was pushing me through it with an odd over-enthusiasm solely due to the colour of my skin. It's madness, and I think the ethnic minorities can spot it a mile off. The parties bring it on themselves.

Mr E

22,695 posts

281 months

Wednesday 19th January 2005
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love machine said:

They then said "population of the country by non whites =8%" Percentage of non-white MP's in the commons about 0.0062% or about that......


8% of people probably vote Green/BNP/Monster Raving Loony. I don't see any MPs.

love machine

Original Poster:

7,609 posts

257 months

Wednesday 19th January 2005
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Assuming a completely homogenous UK. As a part of the "inclusive" box ticking teaching practice I did, as a part of DFEE 4/98, I had to show evidence of promoting England as a multicultural society. In a school in Penzance. The kids had pretty much never seen a non-local, let alone a non-white.

Should we encourage an exodus from the major cities. I for one would welcome seeing some of the empty homes filled, regardless of who it was.

But that's a different story entirely.

Edit:- I agree V8, totally.

>> Edited by love machine on Wednesday 19th January 11:57

YarisSi

1,538 posts

266 months

Wednesday 19th January 2005
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Is'nt it racist to suggest perosn of a different race cannot represent others. Just look at Powell in american can show a flaw if you want to talk about stastics and race. If just ignore colour of skin and look at other differences representation would not work.

hammerwerfer

3,234 posts

262 months

Wednesday 19th January 2005
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Edward Brooke was elected Sanator from Massachusetts, as predominantly white, liberal state, back in the 60s.

He is black and a Republican, and won in a predominantly Democrat state.

That was long before positive discrimination was invented.

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th January 2005
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When will they demand +ve discrimination for disabled people? What about +ve discrimination for mentally handicapped people? Don't forget +ve discrimination for people with ginger hair, and most importantly lets have +ve discrimination for drug users and alcoholics!

v8thunder

27,647 posts

280 months

Wednesday 19th January 2005
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Precisely. Think tanks are like Daffyd Thomas - they perceive prejudice to exist where it isn't, and they come up with these detached, hare-brained rules to promote 'groups' ahead of 'people'. To me, a voter, a politician represents ideas and strategies for both government and the local area, and I can't honestly say that the colour of their skin, or the country they or their ancestors came from, makes any difference whatsoever. People vote for and against parties, not people.

Kinky

39,903 posts

291 months

Wednesday 19th January 2005
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I don't think you can directly compare the %age of non-whites against the %age of non-white MPs.

A vast majority of non-whites will live within individual communities - and would be represented by 1 person.

Therefore you would have a town with a large %age of non-whites, being represented by 1 person.

If that makes sense?

K

hedders

24,460 posts

269 months

Wednesday 19th January 2005
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Not to mention tghe fact that certain groups do not believe in our political system in the first place.

EG: A lot of Muslims do not accept man made laws, and they do not vote in elections as our legal system means nothing to them. Why would Muslims (for example)be represented in a system they do not believe in?