Speeding ticket but not my vehicle
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I received a speeding ticket from a mobile unit which shows my reg no'. I know for sure that it wasn't my vehicle so sent back for photo.
The photo shows my the reg on my trailer being towed by another vehicle.
So it wasn't my vehicle or me driving but I have the paperwork etc.
The vehicle towing the trailer has no reg no' showing but is fairly recognisable to me, ie I think i know who it is.
The vehicle owner says I have no responsibility to do anything else in the matter and have no need to inform the police that its his vehicle. (doesn't want the points)
Anyone know if this is the case or will I end up in a heap of trouble ?
The photo shows my the reg on my trailer being towed by another vehicle.
So it wasn't my vehicle or me driving but I have the paperwork etc.
The vehicle towing the trailer has no reg no' showing but is fairly recognisable to me, ie I think i know who it is.
The vehicle owner says I have no responsibility to do anything else in the matter and have no need to inform the police that its his vehicle. (doesn't want the points)
Anyone know if this is the case or will I end up in a heap of trouble ?
R TOY said:
Anyone know if this is the case or will I end up in a heap of trouble ?
If you don't tell plod who borrowed your trailer, you could be charged with perverting the course of justice and that's not 3 points and £100 drinks voucher !Why would you possibly think otherwise ? You know what the plod/judiciary are like with speeding . . . it's worse that paedophilia in their minds and you'll be arrested and properly sha*ged backwards if you don't tell them all they need to know to eliminate you and get their cash !
To not give any information within your power which may lead to the identification of the driver is an offence under section 172 of the road traffic act
The question is could anyone likely find out it was within your power to identify him.
You have not explained how your plate got on that trailer.
Unless you can supply a reasonable explanation to how your plate got on the trailer, they are not going to leave you alone, because normally you would know who you lent/sold your trailer too, or who you borrowed one off.
The question is could anyone likely find out it was within your power to identify him.
You have not explained how your plate got on that trailer.
Unless you can supply a reasonable explanation to how your plate got on the trailer, they are not going to leave you alone, because normally you would know who you lent/sold your trailer too, or who you borrowed one off.
Roo said:
It was his trailer.
As long as you are 'diligently assisting' in the discovering the identity the police cannot do anything. (theres not definition of diligently assisting) My advice would be ig you already have the photo is play the time game I i.e. after the first initial response there is no specific timeframe you have to answer with replies (although one would suggest 28 days max per letter).
As long as you say its not your trailer, not your car. But it is my plate they have no grounds for doing anything to you.
Speeding is the one offence most people fess up to immediately, but in most other parts of 'criminal' law it is innocent until proven guilty, the onus is on the police to prove all that is necessary to take action. But by you clearly stating it wasn't you, (and you don't recognise the driver) kind of screws them up.
Chances are you and your mate will get away with it unless he was say doing 50 in a 30....
mattf93 said:
As long as you are 'diligently assisting' in the discovering the identity the police cannot do anything. (theres not definition of diligently assisting)
My advice would be ig you already have the photo is play the time game I i.e. after the first initial response there is no specific timeframe you have to answer with replies (although one would suggest 28 days max per letter).
As long as you say its not your trailer, not your car. But it is my plate they have no grounds for doing anything to you.
Speeding is the one offence most people fess up to immediately, but in most other parts of 'criminal' law it is innocent until proven guilty, the onus is on the police to prove all that is necessary to take action. But by you clearly stating it wasn't you, (and you don't recognise the driver) kind of screws them up.
Chances are you and your mate will get away with it unless he was say doing 50 in a 30....
Do you think that lying about it not being his trailer would really be a good move?My advice would be ig you already have the photo is play the time game I i.e. after the first initial response there is no specific timeframe you have to answer with replies (although one would suggest 28 days max per letter).
As long as you say its not your trailer, not your car. But it is my plate they have no grounds for doing anything to you.
Speeding is the one offence most people fess up to immediately, but in most other parts of 'criminal' law it is innocent until proven guilty, the onus is on the police to prove all that is necessary to take action. But by you clearly stating it wasn't you, (and you don't recognise the driver) kind of screws them up.
Chances are you and your mate will get away with it unless he was say doing 50 in a 30....
If I'm reading this correctly the OP' s number plate has been seen speeding.
As the registered keeper of that plate he has received a notice of intended prosecution.
He says the car isn't his, but as the reg on the car isn't visible the trailers number plate is all the police/camera partnership have to go on.
If the OP says it's not him, and the plate wasn't on the trailer by a means known to him the the driver in question has committed an offence (wrong reg plate on vehicle (trailer is part of the same vehicle)).
If someone was illegally avoiding speeding tickets by using my reg number I suspect the police would expect me to want ths issue solved. If I went down the 'no idea, sorry' route they may just think I'm messing them around.
I wonder if the police could go down the route that the vehicle plate is registered to the OP stating the car and trailer form one vehicle and then ask for the name of the driver.
I'm just adding my initial thoughts, and will follow what happens. As it stands the police don't know the OP wasn't the driver, and it's up to him to show he wasn't.
As the registered keeper of that plate he has received a notice of intended prosecution.
He says the car isn't his, but as the reg on the car isn't visible the trailers number plate is all the police/camera partnership have to go on.
If the OP says it's not him, and the plate wasn't on the trailer by a means known to him the the driver in question has committed an offence (wrong reg plate on vehicle (trailer is part of the same vehicle)).
If someone was illegally avoiding speeding tickets by using my reg number I suspect the police would expect me to want ths issue solved. If I went down the 'no idea, sorry' route they may just think I'm messing them around.
I wonder if the police could go down the route that the vehicle plate is registered to the OP stating the car and trailer form one vehicle and then ask for the name of the driver.
I'm just adding my initial thoughts, and will follow what happens. As it stands the police don't know the OP wasn't the driver, and it's up to him to show he wasn't.
R TOY said:
I received a speeding ticket from a mobile unit which shows my reg no'. I know for sure that it wasn't my vehicle so sent back for photo.
The photo shows my the reg on my trailer being towed by another vehicle.
So it wasn't my vehicle or me driving but I have the paperwork etc.
The vehicle towing the trailer has no reg no' showing but is fairly recognisable to me, ie I think i know who it is.
The vehicle owner says I have no responsibility to do anything else in the matter and have no need to inform the police that its his vehicle. (doesn't want the points)
Anyone know if this is the case or will I end up in a heap of trouble ?
I think this is a wind up.The OP starts the topic at 18.26 this evening and has not responded to peoples posts.If it was genuine I would have thought he would have replied by now.The photo shows my the reg on my trailer being towed by another vehicle.
So it wasn't my vehicle or me driving but I have the paperwork etc.
The vehicle towing the trailer has no reg no' showing but is fairly recognisable to me, ie I think i know who it is.
The vehicle owner says I have no responsibility to do anything else in the matter and have no need to inform the police that its his vehicle. (doesn't want the points)
Anyone know if this is the case or will I end up in a heap of trouble ?
You say you think you know who it is and you definately do as you then said the vehicle owner says I have no responsibility to do anything else in the matter and have no need to inform the police that its his vehicle. (doesn't want the points)
Anyone know if this is the case or will I end up in a heap of trouble ?
Surely you are not that thick.
OP show us the photo of your trailer.
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