Brake Fade, very dissapointed
Brake Fade, very dissapointed
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Ash GTO 3R

Original Poster:

3,836 posts

264 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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Having driven some of the finest Japanese vehicles, Impreza P1 for example, I find today that on the track, Noble have ommited to supply brake fade!

Now this is not what I am used to, so here are the questions :-

Is it available as an extra?
Can I order it from the parts department?
If so, how easy is it to fit?

I await your advice and guidance.

Joust, your thoughts please?

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

276 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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Ash GTO 3R said:
Having driven some of the finest Japanese vehicles, Impreza P1 for example, I find today that on the track, Noble have ommited to supply brake fade!

Now this is not what I am used to, so here are the questions :-

Is it available as an extra?
Can I order it from the parts department?
If so, how easy is it to fit?

I await your advice and guidance.

Joust, your thoughts please?


What are you saying Ash - that you WANT brake fade?!

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

282 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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Ash GTO 3R said:
Having driven some of the finest Japanese vehicles, Impreza P1 for example, I find today that on the track, Noble have ommited to supply brake fade!

Now this is not what I am used to, so here are the questions :-

Is it available as an extra?
Can I order it from the parts department?
If so, how easy is it to fit?

I await your advice and guidance.

Joust, your thoughts please?


Just try harder - it is there.

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

276 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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m12_nathan said:

Ash GTO 3R said:
Having driven some of the finest Japanese vehicles, Impreza P1 for example, I find today that on the track, Noble have ommited to supply brake fade!

Now this is not what I am used to, so here are the questions :-

Is it available as an extra?
Can I order it from the parts department?
If so, how easy is it to fit?

I await your advice and guidance.

Aha, it is a famous Britisher jolk, yes?! :-)



Joust, your thoughts please?



Just try harder - it is there.

robp

2,097 posts

264 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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Ash - which circuit? Some are real brake-chewers, others you can get away with barely warming the discs.

V6GTO

11,579 posts

265 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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Ash,
You're obviously not trying hard enough!

Martin.

Ash GTO 3R

Original Poster:

3,836 posts

264 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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To all

Sarcasm, lowest form of whit, highest form of intellige).

Martin

I just can not get used to how good this car is!

V6GTO

11,579 posts

265 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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Ash GTO 3R said:
To all

Sarcasm, lowest form of whit, highest form of intellige).

Martin

I just can not get used to how good this car is!



Ash,
Try stopping quickly from 150mph! I nearly rammed a toll booth today.

Martin.

Ash GTO 3R

Original Poster:

3,836 posts

264 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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Martin

Show off!

joust

14,622 posts

282 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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Sorry, unfortuantly you'll have to go back to the Classic model to find that.

It was deemed too "interesting", and so it was mainly removed from the 3R.

Use Bedford GT though for 5 or so laps and you could still bring on the fun of "ploughing straight on".

Unfortunatly Mr Killjoy Lee decided that that was far too much fun, so he's b******y well removed it completly from the M400. Despite sitting out for 10+ laps at a time at Bedford GT, doing repeated 140+mph stops, absolutly nothing. Not even really any "spongyness" to play with (bit like playdough, just more fun).

I want my money back - the car's no fun now

J

V6GTO

11,579 posts

265 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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joust said:

I want my money back - the car's no fun now

J


Spray it a decent colour and I'll do you a swap!

Martin.

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

282 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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I'll be testing my nice new brake cooling mod at bedford on Feb 5th Pics soon (when I can be bothered).

Joust - what have they changed on the M400? I kind of assumed it'd be 3r brakes with hardlines?

joust

14,622 posts

282 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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m12_nathan said:
I'll be testing my nice new brake cooling mod at bedford on Feb 5th Pics soon (when I can be bothered).
Joust - what have they changed on the M400? I kind of assumed it'd be 3r brakes with hardlines?
No idea, sorry.

There was a very very slight squishyness after 6 or so hard laps, but it never got worse, and actually started to get better after even more abuse after another couple of laps.

Certainly much better than I have seen on any other M12.

J

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

276 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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joust said:

Certainly much better than I have seen on any other M12.
J


Justin, did you have the brake upgrade on your 2.5?

joust

14,622 posts

282 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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No - but I've driven cars that have and they all still suffered from it, particularly after being left standing after a few hot laps, even after a cooling down lap.

The pedal in the M400 was rock solid when I jumped back in it, it just didn't fade.

No idea what they have done, but it's pretty dam good.

J

micknall

826 posts

272 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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The M400's braking system is identical to the 3R's, although there's slightly more rearward bias. All models are now fitted with solid brake lines.

Simon Hucknall
Press Officer
Noble Automotive Ltd.

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

282 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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Thank you Simon.

DanH

12,287 posts

283 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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micknall said:
The M400's braking system is identical to the 3R's, although there's slightly more rearward bias. All models are now fitted with solid brake lines.

Simon Hucknall
Press Officer
Noble Automotive Ltd.


Wasn't there a change a while bask to lessen the rear bias on the cars (pre M400 days)? So presumably the earlier models won't have had this?

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

276 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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joust said:
No idea what they have done, but it's pretty dam good.

J


Apparently not much then...

- could be that you got so used to your "mule" that you didn't notice the marque's improvements elsewhere! :-)

joust

14,622 posts

282 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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AMG Merc said:

Apparently not much then...
- could be that you got so used to your "mule" that you didn't notice the marque's improvements elsewhere! :-)
Don't know. Certainly AG's 3 that was "upgraded" to solid lines still suffered from spongy pedals, they were nearly hitting the bottom after two sprint runs last year.

Also remember that it was dam cold out there on Saturday (about 5C), so it'll be interesting to see what a summer's blat around Bedford GT shows up.

J