N.W. dyno shootout for modified Porsches?
N.W. dyno shootout for modified Porsches?
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ninemeister

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1,146 posts

281 months

Saturday 22nd January 2005
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Recent jobs and a few phone calls from potential new customers has given me an idea: is anyone out there interested in getting together one Saturday for a modified Porsche dyno shootout?

The idea would be to collect similar cars together on the same day, then test them all and compare results (eg: 964RS, 993RS, 930/965, 993TT, GT3, etc..) so that barometric/temperature effects and the like would be to all extents cancelled out. Depending on numbers it should be possible to test 4 or 5 cars per hour, so I expect we could cope with 20-30 cars in a day. There would have to be a nominal charge per run of around £30 but I think it could be a useful excercise to prove (one way or another) what modifications actually work. One minor detail is that we could not test the 964C4 since we have a 2wd dyno, whereas the C4 993 & 996 variants can all have their fwd safely disconnected for the test.

Erm, I suppose I would not be averse to testing other cars (like TVR/Ferrari/caterham) should anyone want to organise their own groups, although the I may have to charge a little more if the cars are not as easy to test as the 911's.

What do you think, are you a true Piston Head ready to lay down your bet???

MOD500

2,687 posts

273 months

Sunday 23rd January 2005
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Mine is not really pumped up, but I'd be up for checking it is pushing out its stated quota.

It will be interesting to see what the actual numbers are of modded cars compared to the tuners figures.

rods

1,798 posts

276 months

Sunday 23rd January 2005
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Count me in,it would be interesting to see some actual figures,as opposed to the ones quoted by DMS.

bumcrack

977 posts

288 months

Sunday 23rd January 2005
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I'm up for it, but I don't suppose you want a boggo 996 or the rollers. Best get modding

johnny senna

4,073 posts

295 months

Sunday 23rd January 2005
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I'd be up for that Colin. When did you have in mind?

As it happens, I am dropping my car at 9m for a re-map anyway in 3 weeks time.


Edited to say.....so how about it clubsport, adamt, DeR, Guy, Henry? It would be great to compare Guy's GT2 to some of the DMS modified cars.

>> Edited by johnny senna on Sunday 23 January 11:59

ninemeister

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281 months

Sunday 23rd January 2005
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OK, the best bet if for anyone interested to email me direct with the subject title "dyno shootout XXX" where XXX is the model type (eg 964, 993, 996GT3, or what have you) and then include all the relevant details about your engine mods in the mail. I guess that it would be useful to also test a few standard cars on the same day as a reference point, but I really want to avoid testing 20 standard cars at a time as I cannot see the point.

The motivation behind the move came after we tested a 993VR last year that had an £8000 3.8 conversion with cams and ecu and made 278bhp, i.e. less than standard. This is not the only example, but I will have to spare the details of the better ones.

zanzibar

234 posts

262 months

Sunday 23rd January 2005
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Colin

My MK1 GT3 is having a Manthey Racing upgrade done at the moment they are quoting around 395 bhp, new exhaust, revised ECU & encapsulated ram air intake. What about testing the day before the Oulton Park track day? March 4th

Russell

clubsport

7,399 posts

281 months

Sunday 23rd January 2005
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Edited to say.....so how about it clubsport, adamt, DeR, Guy, Henry? It would be great to compare Guy's GT2 to some of the DMS modified cars.
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225 miles each way is too far for me to come unforunately.

I did have a din 70020 rolling road check,,4000 miles ago...For comparison purposes 295.2bhp & 262 ib ft with a smotth torque curve. Nothing special, but fine for a 60k miles 3.8 993 lump.

johnny senna

4,073 posts

295 months

Sunday 23rd January 2005
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clubsport said:


Edited to say.....so how about it clubsport, adamt, DeR, Guy, Henry? It would be great to compare Guy's GT2 to some of the DMS modified cars.



225 miles each way is too far for me to come unforunately.

I did have a din 70020 rolling road check,,4000 miles ago...For comparison purposes 295.2bhp & 262 ib ft with a smotth torque curve. Nothing special, but fine for a 60k miles 3.8 993 lump.



Boo!!

>> Edited by johnny senna on Sunday 23 January 16:15

MOD500

2,687 posts

273 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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Just had a thought

Can we make a weekend of this? Go out on the Saturday night and stay over...provided we can get secure parking for the cars.




MOD.

rods

1,798 posts

276 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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MOD500 said:
Just had a thought

Can we make a weekend of this? Go out on the Saturday night and stay over...provided we can get secure parking for the cars.




MOD.


I'm up for this Martyn,Johnny,DeR fancy a beer or two?

Colin any idea of dates?

dazren

22,612 posts

284 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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Sounds like a marvellous idea. Would certainly go a long way to answering a number of queries I dee raised. Not that I'll be testing my car as it's standard as it left the factory. May have to make the trip oooop north though if there is an opportunity for evening beers.

DAZ

johnny senna

4,073 posts

295 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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MOD500 said:
Just had a thought

Can we make a weekend of this? Go out on the Saturday night and stay over...provided we can get secure parking for the cars.




MOD.



I think that's a good idea.

Glenn McMenamin

2,305 posts

261 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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zanzibar said:
Colin

My MK1 GT3 is having a Manthey Racing upgrade done at the moment they are quoting around 395 bhp, new exhaust, revised ECU & encapsulated ram air intake. What about testing the day before the Oulton Park track day? March 4th

Russell




I thought that's what you were upto !!!

I'm not going on track with you now !!!

P.S mines in for the suspension next week.
G.

>> Edited by Glenn McMenamin on Monday 24th January 13:51

craigturbo2

450 posts

255 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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Very interested would like to see what horses mine is
producing.

ninemeister

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281 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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I am up for doing a session either the day before or the day after the Outon Park track day. Since the day before is a Friday it would be a bit of a nightmare journey for you guys darn sarf coming ap the M6 but it could be done as far as I am concerned.

We have limited indoor workshop parking overnight, so the sensible plan may be to hook up with the Scottish contingent on the track day, stay over Sat night at a hotel close to oulton then pop up to Warrington in the morning for the session?

johnny senna

4,073 posts

295 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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ninemeister said:
I am up for doing a session either the day before or the day after the Outon Park track day. Since the day before is a Friday it would be a bit of a nightmare journey for you guys darn sarf coming ap the M6 but it could be done as far as I am concerned.

We have limited indoor workshop parking overnight, so the sensible plan may be to hook up with the Scottish contingent on the track day, stay over Sat night at a hotel close to oulton then pop up to Warrington in the morning for the session?



Colin,

Do you mean do the rolling road session on the Sunday 6 March? That would suit me.

ninemeister

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Monday 24th January 2005
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That would be correct John. 10/10.

johnny senna

4,073 posts

295 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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ninemeister said:
That would be correct John. 10/10.






rods

1,798 posts

276 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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Can't make it Mothers Day,any chance of doing it earlier?