Next C2W bike?
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Jimbo.

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4,216 posts

218 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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Just looking for suggestions really, to make sure I've not missed anything!

Being C2W, the budget is £1000. From what I've seen so far, that gets me aluminium and 105, both of which I'm happy with. Not fussed about plastic as I've a Neilpryde and Planet X for that, and I have/had a steelie. I've had 105 on four bikes now and it's been perfect. I'd like to keep it Shimano for reasons of spares, and I like the hoods/shifting. Rim brakes only too: I CBA with two types of wheels and it's still early days for road discs.

Whilst I'm open to all suggestions, the only thing i'm looking at is fit. I'm a freak: a 5'7" shortarse with abnormally long legs, short torso, weedy and feeble arms, a neck that doesn't like being cricked backwards too much yet plenty of flexibility elsewhere!. I need a LOT of seatpost whenever riding something vaguely appropriate. This necessitates a lot of stack height to being the bars up. This means a "bigger" frame, which brings with it a longer reach, which doesn't work without a comedy short stem and the st handling that results. So instead I pick a (smaller) frame with a suitable reach, which normally results in a lower stack, which in turn necessitates a whole pile of spacers or a flipped stem. Rubbish. To fix this I've been looking at more "relaxed" bikes, and maybe as far as"endurance" bikes, which is marketings polite way of saying "MAMIL sportive nodders..." As painful as it is, it's all that'll really work without something drastic.

But without any more waffling, and not worrying too much about the above sizing this, any suggestions? So far I've found:
Trek Madone 2.1
Merida Ride 400
Merica Scultura 400 (slightly more pointy than the Ride 400 but looking at the geo I could just about make this work)
Cannondale CAAD8 (slighty "meh" version of the CAAD10)
Felt F75 (sizing might not work)
Cinelli Experience (no published stack/reach, so might need to investigate this further)
Various Dolans, Ribbles and Planet-Xs, all of which leave me cold :/

There've been others, but that's all I can recall right now. Cheers!





Usget

5,426 posts

240 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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Based on your description, a CAAD8 won't suit you. You'd be better off with a Synapse.

AndyWoodall

2,723 posts

288 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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Look at the Cube Peleton part of the range. Excellent.

bakerstreet

5,041 posts

194 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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I'd go and have a look at a Giant Defy smile

schmunk

4,399 posts

154 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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Not sure about fit, but full carbon and 105 for £1,000...?

http://www.decathlon.co.uk/mach-720-carbon-road-bi...

Jimbo.

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4,216 posts

218 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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AndyWoodall said:
Look at the Cube Peleton part of the range. Excellent.
Good call, I'd completely overlooked these. Sizing looks good too if somewhat irregular between sizes. I mean, the "47cm" being 2mm longer in reach than the "58cm"?! And the only difference between the "50cm" and the "53cm" being 15mm in stack? Odd!

Full 105, with a dash of Ultegra and Mavic wheels? For £999, that's going to be hard to beat.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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I've found a few places that will let you buy wheels or Di2 etc using cycle to work vouchers, it's worth phoning your local indi bike shops to check. If you're getting bored buying £999,99 bikes each year.

jamiebae

6,245 posts

240 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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Genesis Equilibrium or Volant? Both fairly relaxed geo and a bit more interesting than a lot of stuff, although you won't get 105 on an Equilibrium at that price point the lovely steel ride makes up for it.

Jimbo.

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218 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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jamiebae said:
Genesis Equilibrium or Volant? Both fairly relaxed geo and a bit more interesting than a lot of stuff, although you won't get 105 on an Equilibrium at that price point the lovely steel ride makes up for it.
I'll be selling my (too long) Equilibrium frame, and fitting the bits to a smaller Equilibrium or Volant later in the year. Lovely bikes! This C2W bike will be a spare summer bike/potential race bike/source of 11sp groupset for the Neilpryde...

Some Gump

13,018 posts

215 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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OP, deffo test a cube before buying. Their "56" was unridable for me, despite owning a 56 and a 57 bike. It was just teeny.

Jimbo.

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218 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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Some Gump said:
OP, deffo test a cube before buying. Their "56" was unridable for me, despite owning a 56 and a 57 bike. It was just teeny.
And so it is. A reach of 374mm? That's on a par with the smallest bikes of most other brands!

schmunk

4,399 posts

154 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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el stovey said:
I've found a few places that will let you buy wheels or Di2 etc using cycle to work vouchers, it's worth phoning your local indi bike shops to check. If you're getting bored buying £999,99 bikes each year.
Having looked at this in great detail recently in advance of implementing it for my employer, what you're proposing would not qualify for the tax exemption and you'd risk HMRC assessing a tax liability.

The same is true of being able to top up your voucher (even though at least one large provider promotes this as possible).

jamiebae

6,245 posts

240 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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Jimbo. said:
jamiebae said:
Genesis Equilibrium or Volant? Both fairly relaxed geo and a bit more interesting than a lot of stuff, although you won't get 105 on an Equilibrium at that price point the lovely steel ride makes up for it.
I'll be selling my (too long) Equilibrium frame, and fitting the bits to a smaller Equilibrium or Volant later in the year. Lovely bikes! This C2W bike will be a spare summer bike/potential race bike/source of 11sp groupset for the Neilpryde...
I'm a fecking muppet, read the thread and didn't spot the poster!

In your circumstances I'd probably get the best spec on the worst frame possible and pull it to bits, so Ribble/Dolan/PX alu with a decent group and reasonable wheels. You're barely going to ride the bike itself so I wouldn't worry too much on that front.

jamiebae

6,245 posts

240 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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http://www.dolan-bikes.com/road/road-bikes/dolan-p...

That, with a wheel upgrade, just about hits the budget, it has nice finishing kit and would be a good source of parts.

Really though, you don't need another bike, why not pay £300 for a new 105 group set and a couple of hundred on some better wheels, it'll end up cheaper than a £1k bike on C2W and just mean one less kitchen ornament...

Hell27

1,564 posts

220 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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Thought of a CX bike? Planet X do a full carbon CX bike with disc brakes for £999.00. Might be worth a look?

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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Hell27 said:
Thought of a CX bike? Planet X do a full carbon CX bike with disc brakes for £999.00. Might be worth a look?
Remember PlanexX charge at least 10% extra for the privilege, when using the various cycle schemes..