Set me free says Yorkshire Ripper
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ananova said:
Set me free, says Yorkshire Ripper
The Yorkshire Ripper has said he should be allowed to walk free from prison, it was reported.
Peter Sutcliffe, who is serving life for the brutal murders of 13 women, has broken a 24-year silence in a written statement to the Home Office, according to The People.
The news comes days after outrage was provoked after it emerged Sutcliffe was allowed to leave prison to visit the coastal town of Arnside, Cumbria, where his late father's ashes were scattered.
Sutcliffe has made a case for his release by saying he deserves freedom because he is not being treated for mental illness and has not committed a crime for 25 years, the paper reports.
The statement Sutcliffe allegedly wrote to the Home Office reads: "The courts convicted me and now the courts will protect my human rights under Article Eight.
"I am no longer an insane or dangerous person and I am not receiving treatment for any form of mental illness and I have not committed any criminal offence in over 25 years."
The paper also reports Sutcliffe wrote a longer statement talking of his plans to get married but Broadmoor prison staff censored the letter.
This reads: "I hope to be getting married on or before May 12, 2005. I am looking forward to the wedding date. Since my conviction, never before have I took such a step but I do so to end further speculation into my life.
"My hope is that my stay at Broadmoor will be reviewed and that they will look favourably on my hopes for my future. And I look forward to the day when my wife and I are allowed to live as one under the same roof in matrimonial harmony."
Last Monday's visit to the Lake District- granted on compassionate grounds by the Home Secretary - was criticised by the families of victims and local MPs.
That's because he has been inside for 25 years
So, should he be let out?
I say No.
Don said:I am prepared to accept that he is totally reformed, hasn't offended in 25 years, is very remorseful and that there is no risk of reoffending.
Sutcliffe was given a life sentence for a very good reason. I cannot believe a man who was a serial killer can ever reform to the state where he could be trusted in general society...he could relapse at any point and start over again.
No.
But all of that is irrelevant.
The punishment for his crimes requires him to remain in prison for the rest of his days.
He ought to regard it as a pretty reasonable tariff, given the magnitude of his crimes.
Cheers
Pat
PatHeald said:
So, should he be let out?
I say No.
I say Yes.
It would free up badly needed prison space for people who remove catalysts from their cars and disapprove of speed cameras.
He only murdered 13 people! As I break the speed limit by a few miles an hour for at least a couple of times a day, i must have killed something like BILLIONS of people by now if the statistics are to be believed!
In 1979, one of our group of friends was Andy Kershaw, the radio DJ, and one night he held a party at his scruffy digs in Leeds, (He was studying at Leeds University at the time), and his flat was in an area where several of the Ripper's murders were being commited, and Sutcliffe had not been caught at this time.....
I will never forget the tangible fear in the winter night air, as our party walked the few short streets from the car park to his flat, it was spine chingling, it must have been terrible for any woman out walking alone at night.....
I will never forget the tangible fear in the winter night air, as our party walked the few short streets from the car park to his flat, it was spine chingling, it must have been terrible for any woman out walking alone at night.....
I can understand why he thinks he is fit to be let out. 25 years is a long time to reflect on his actions. He probably accepted what he had done after the first 5 years and has been building barriers in his head for the last 20.
To him, the man who murdered all those people is long gone. Sure he remembers a vague feeling of what it was like; screams and wierd vivid dreams even but unless the route cause of his evil doings has been treated by extraction there will allways be a danger that he may kill again.
I think life for him should mean life and he should be gratefull that he has the privillages he has. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets a pretty cushty time in there by now.
If he really wants to do a good service he could allways choose death by injection or similar.
What does surprise me is these people that fall in love with psychos like him. They are either mad or the worst kind of lentilist.
No, i think it should be Crayola city for a while longer. Hell, he'll be getting a shag once a month soon and probably moved to some sort of min jail when he is 70 when he can do what he likes and pass the time of day with the likes of Mandleson and Archer.
Lets face it; after killing 13 people there will allways be at least 130 people on the outside that have been saving up for a hitman for the last 25 years. So he would have to go into some sort of relocation program and how much would that cost?.
The underlining fact though is that he has taken the lives of 13 people and destroyed the lives of possibly hundreds. What sort of message would the government be sending if they released him?
I think he has a bloody cheek and they should take his crayons away.
To him, the man who murdered all those people is long gone. Sure he remembers a vague feeling of what it was like; screams and wierd vivid dreams even but unless the route cause of his evil doings has been treated by extraction there will allways be a danger that he may kill again.
I think life for him should mean life and he should be gratefull that he has the privillages he has. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets a pretty cushty time in there by now.
If he really wants to do a good service he could allways choose death by injection or similar.
What does surprise me is these people that fall in love with psychos like him. They are either mad or the worst kind of lentilist.
No, i think it should be Crayola city for a while longer. Hell, he'll be getting a shag once a month soon and probably moved to some sort of min jail when he is 70 when he can do what he likes and pass the time of day with the likes of Mandleson and Archer.
Lets face it; after killing 13 people there will allways be at least 130 people on the outside that have been saving up for a hitman for the last 25 years. So he would have to go into some sort of relocation program and how much would that cost?.
The underlining fact though is that he has taken the lives of 13 people and destroyed the lives of possibly hundreds. What sort of message would the government be sending if they released him?
I think he has a bloody cheek and they should take his crayons away.
How about this...
"Right Mr Sutcliffe, here's your deal. We are going to lock you in a room with the relatives of all of your victims. At the end of 72 hours we will unlock the room. Anyone that walks out of that room is free..."
Most people that kill to that extent have a mental detachment that lasts all of their lives. They are sociopaths. The thing is, they never really feel remorse but they are damned good at faking it.
He's getting married? Perhaps society owes it to future generations to remove this errant strain of dna from the collective gene pool. Permanently.
Just some random thoughts
ErnestM
"Right Mr Sutcliffe, here's your deal. We are going to lock you in a room with the relatives of all of your victims. At the end of 72 hours we will unlock the room. Anyone that walks out of that room is free..."
Most people that kill to that extent have a mental detachment that lasts all of their lives. They are sociopaths. The thing is, they never really feel remorse but they are damned good at faking it.
He's getting married? Perhaps society owes it to future generations to remove this errant strain of dna from the collective gene pool. Permanently.
Just some random thoughts
ErnestM
In America he would probably be dead, so he couldn't exactly come back in 25 years then - could he?
Keep him locked up. No one forced him to kill them, mental illness or no mental illness - the families of the victims will have to live with it until they die, so should he.
What on earth has happened to this country? You can literally get away with murder.
Keep him locked up. No one forced him to kill them, mental illness or no mental illness - the families of the victims will have to live with it until they die, so should he.
What on earth has happened to this country? You can literally get away with murder.
ErnestM said:
How about this...
"Right Mr Sutcliffe, here's your deal. We are going to lock you in a room with the relatives of all of your victims. At the end of 72 hours we will unlock the room. Anyone that walks out of that room is free..."
Most people that kill to that extent have a mental detachment that lasts all of their lives. They are sociopaths. The thing is, they never really feel remorse but they are damned good at faking it.
He's getting married? Perhaps society owes it to future generations to remove this errant strain of dna from the collective gene pool. Permanently.
Just some random thoughts
ErnestM
72 seconds would do it. If it were my sister/girlfriend/mother, 7.2 seconds would be all I needed.
julianhj said:
I say put the poor bugger out of his misery. Maybe with a baseball bat. 
A slow, painful death is too good for him. It's just a shame he's costing us so much while he lives. The rest of his days in solitary would be most appropriate IMHO.
There are plenty who deserve a slow painful death for crimes against humanity like Brunstrom Begg et al. The ripper was a sicko he just needs an injection.
v8thunder said:
13 lives=13 life sentences.
Prison is the ultimate deterrent for crime in this country - what's the point in it if nothing means what it says any more? If killing sprees were 'just a phase' I don't want to know what other 'phases' you've got tucked up your sleeve.
How about 13 lives = 13 vital body parts, just for starters.
Now where shall we begin? Well taking those off would help.
I read a suggestion that the decision to allow him leave from prison was in part to do with the possibility of him applying to the ECHR.
Supposedly, because they've given him leave his human rights have not been breached.
Anyone legal minded know if its true?
Back to the original question: Free? He should be
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Supposedly, because they've given him leave his human rights have not been breached.
Anyone legal minded know if its true?
Back to the original question: Free? He should be
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