Cramp - what's your remedy?!?!
Cramp - what's your remedy?!?!
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caul pope

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250 posts

197 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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Unfortunately I regularly get cramp in my quads.
I presume it's related to;
Dehydration
Lack of conditioning/fitness
Lack of fuel

Maybe I just answered my own question but I was wondering if you guys have any solutions?

Cheers

Banana Boy

467 posts

142 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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I started to experience cramps during my longer rides, especially now I am doing more mileage and higher intensity efforts.

I did loads of research in magazines and on t'interweb. I've found that a combination of hydration, fueling and a range of stretches (found on the British Cycling website) have almost totally eliminated my cramps - although I think that after 4 hours of stiff effort it may be inevitable?! At which point I just keep spinning, totally fearing the prospect of stopping and not being able to get going again! smile

caul pope

Original Poster:

250 posts

197 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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Cheers for the advice, I never really stretch so I'll certainly investigate this.

Banana Boy said:
At which point I just keep spinning, totally fearing the prospect of stopping and not being able to get going again! smile
Today I had to completely stop half way up a hill because my legs wanted to disown me frown

BadgerBenji

3,534 posts

247 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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Drink more, and more of the hydration tablets things like High5 zero.

Find I get cramp in endurance mtb events sometimes, but more drink with more tabs in, and I can usually ride it out, but at the time it's a nightmare offroad. I have also found the caffeine enriched gels seem to bring on cramp as well, but I only have one sometimes two cup of weak tea a day.

Sump

5,511 posts

196 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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More salt intake.

Laurel Green

31,119 posts

261 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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A goodly measure of Gin & Tonic helps - well the Tonic does.

caul pope

Original Poster:

250 posts

197 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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Laurel Green said:
A goodly measure of Gin & Tonic helps - well the Tonic does.
I've heard tonic water helps, does it really though? I recon a 1liter bottle of Schwepes might actually fit in the bottle cage smile

outnumbered

4,870 posts

263 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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My "remedy" is to shout "OW OW OW you fking bd" very loudly.

It makes me feel better, but doesn't actually stop the cramp smile

Hackney

7,427 posts

237 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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Isn't cramp caused by lack of salt (which is lost through sweat?)
When I played football I'd drink salt water after a game if I felt it coming on.

A bit difficult on a ride though, and I've experienced it a couple of times mid pedal stroke.
Must be an interesting site as I hobble-pedal to a stop.

Laurel Green

31,119 posts

261 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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caul pope said:
I've heard tonic water helps, does it really though? I recon a 1liter bottle of Schwepes might actually fit in the bottle cage smile
I think this has been discussed on here before and seem to remember it being beneficial in doing so.

More on it HERE


caul pope

Original Poster:

250 posts

197 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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Just read some posts about leg cramps caused by excersise and it appears there's no certain solution frown

Things things keep cropping up as remedies though;

Tonic water (although many people doubt the quantity of quinin in tonic will help)
Apple cider vinegar
Potassium supplements
Magnesium supplements
Tomato juice
Tums anti-acid tablets!

sparkyb999

322 posts

227 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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Someone said to me once that cramps can be a result of taking your muscles beyond their normal use.

I tend to agree, as for four years of training I only seem to get calf and quad cramps when I return to tough training after a short break

My hydration and nutrition has always been consistent. Soon as I have done a couple of hard training sessions the cramps don't seem to happen, until I do I take myself further like racing.


sparkyb999

322 posts

227 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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Someone said to me once that cramps can be a result of taking your muscles beyond their normal use.

I tend to agree, as for four years of training I only seem to get calf and quad cramps when I return to tough training after a short break

My hydration and nutrition has always been consistent. Soon as I have done a couple of hard training sessions the cramps don't seem to happen, until I do I take myself further like racing.


With these feet

5,733 posts

244 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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Has anyone tried Pocari Sweat? Sounds disgusting I know, but when I was working in Japan, I was told it is the best thing to drink as it contained all the minerals lost due to sweating.
As my fitness is improving slowly, Im finding its my legs that start to give a little wobble.

Also, why is it my legs feel terrible at the start of a ride but improve as I get further in? Is it down to not warming up properly? Theres a small climb where I usually ride that I use a s warm up - or is it better to stretch prior to getting on the bike?

Don1

16,792 posts

237 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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Tonic water and stretching.

Howitzer

2,865 posts

245 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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With these feet said:
Has anyone tried Pocari Sweat? Sounds disgusting I know, but when I was working in Japan, I was told it is the best thing to drink as it contained all the minerals lost due to sweating.
As my fitness is improving slowly, Im finding its my legs that start to give a little wobble.
I used to work outside in Dubai in overalls and was drinking gallons of water a day, even then my pee was dark orange treacle and I used to get quite bad hand cramps after work. Taking 2 cans of Pocari sweat stopped this completely and I always drank it after that. No idea where to get it in the UK though.

I just drink weak Robinsons or Vimto, I never get cramps now aslong as I have something other than plain water.

Dave!

caul pope

Original Poster:

250 posts

197 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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Howitzer said:
No idea where to get it in the UK though.
Found it through Amazin. £1 a can isn't too bad compared to how much some 'fitness' supplements are!
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00880M8OK/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_OCZ...

Kell

1,708 posts

237 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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With these feet said:
Also, why is it my legs feel terrible at the start of a ride but improve as I get further in? Is it down to not warming up properly? Theres a small climb where I usually ride that I use a s warm up - or is it better to stretch prior to getting on the bike?
Stretching is no good on cold muscles. They need be warmed up before stretching. So you need to exercise before stretching. Sounds counter intuitive, but someone once described it to me as like a piece of Blu Tak. Try and stretch it when it's cold and it will just break. Warm it up first and it stretches a lot easier.


yellowjack

18,435 posts

195 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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Kell said:
With these feet said:
Also, why is it my legs feel terrible at the start of a ride but improve as I get further in? Is it down to not warming up properly? Theres a small climb where I usually ride that I use a s warm up - or is it better to stretch prior to getting on the bike?
Stretching is no good on cold muscles. They need be warmed up before stretching. So you need to exercise before stretching. Sounds counter intuitive, but someone once described it to me as like a piece of Blu Tak. Try and stretch it when it's cold and it will just break. Warm it up first and it stretches a lot easier.
Always a no-no to stretch from cold. Sometimes on military PT sessions there'll be a warm-up followed by an instructor-led stretching session before the main event, or a warm-up and straight to business, but we'd NEVER open a phys session with stretching from cold. Stretching at the end of a period of exercise was always mandatory, though. Led by the instructor we'd stretch off all the muscle groups for at least 10, often 15 minutes, with a recommendation to continue stretching individually after we'd been dismissed. Do research stretching properly, though, and don't push things too far right from the off. Listen to your body, and if you start to move from 'bearable discomfort' into 'pain' you are going too far too fast.

On the bike, I sometimes get cramps in my lower legs, and this can be alleviated by dropping the pedal, standing up off the saddle, and stretching the calf muscles one side at a time while coasting along. It means you keep moving and you don't get cold or start to stiffen up, too, which is a bonus.

Enricogto

646 posts

174 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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1.Seating position and muscle range
2.Sipping a lot of water regularly
3.Eating bananas....lots of them
4.Stretching