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ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
I looked at all the Z stuff a while ago. More trouble than it's worth? 
Now if you get someone else to do it that's a different story.....
If you pay someone else, then its 500 quid minimum. I ain't that rich! Guy at work hired one to do his beemer, but the valetter was a twat. He threw a hissy fit saying he couldn't work with this brand new m3s paint as it was the worst paint job he'd ever seen (apparently there was a bit of streaking but come on!), and he'd have to relevel it all, so it would take a minimum of 3 days at 500 a day. He'd also have to take the car away...
Anyway the car does look and smell nice now
Part of the reason it was so slow is that I had to do the wax stripping phase, but thats a once a year job unless you are super obsessed. It always takes me ages to clean cars because I'm quite anal about it once I've started. The zymol wax was actually really easy to work with. Much much much better than turtle wax etc! really easy to apply and it buffed off nicely.
I found a car polish system that is also a lot of work but IMHO delivers outstanding results. I thought the work was worth it.
www.zainostore.com/
I put this on my M12, A4 and Tahoe about 2 months ago. I was very impressed with how shiny it was when I first put it on. They still look just as good every time I wash them. It is amazing how the water, dirt and dust just slides off. Supposed to last 6-9 months. Can't comment on that yet.
It is a multi-step process that uses multiple types of preps, polishes, etc. You must follow the directions religiously to get the best result.
Dean
www.zainostore.com/
I put this on my M12, A4 and Tahoe about 2 months ago. I was very impressed with how shiny it was when I first put it on. They still look just as good every time I wash them. It is amazing how the water, dirt and dust just slides off. Supposed to last 6-9 months. Can't comment on that yet.
It is a multi-step process that uses multiple types of preps, polishes, etc. You must follow the directions religiously to get the best result.
Dean
Like you I've used Zymol before and it does take a long time. That said, I found a Valeting chap who was happy to do it for me and charged me £70.
Did it take him 6 hours and did he do it as thouroughly as I would of, probably not, but life's too short, it looked good and I'm happy with that.
I've also tried Maguires which seems to be a little more Max Power but their wheel spray is very good. Joust, you probably know this already but they do a scratch and swirl wax which is also very good and removes the bloom from X5 window trims!
>> Edited by hunttheshunt on Monday 24th January 08:01
Did it take him 6 hours and did he do it as thouroughly as I would of, probably not, but life's too short, it looked good and I'm happy with that.
I've also tried Maguires which seems to be a little more Max Power but their wheel spray is very good. Joust, you probably know this already but they do a scratch and swirl wax which is also very good and removes the bloom from X5 window trims!
>> Edited by hunttheshunt on Monday 24th January 08:01
joust said:
Joust, you probably know this already but they do a scratch and swirl wax which is also very good and removes the bloom from X5 window trims!
The X5 gets done by the local hand car wash every month or so
J
I don't really trust them, although Glover used to use them to do the Noble. Might explain why the paint isn't immaculate!
Seriously considering a MK1 GT3 or an M3 csl joust said:
I don't really trust them, although Glover used to use them to do the Noble. Might explain why the paint isn't immaculate!
You have to find a good one....
J
Even the good ones aren't going to have top quality products and perfectly clean sponges etc. Well not unless you hire one a valetter with a van, and all the gubbins.
DanH said:The one I use seems that for every car they use new, clean microfibre cloths (they even have the washing machine on site), and they seem to use commercial versions of CarPlan, Turtle wax etc. There is also the option of using Zymol for waxing (not that we ever get the X5 waxed
Even the good ones aren't going to have top quality products and perfectly clean sponges etc. Well not unless you hire one a valetter with a van, and all the gubbins.
), although at £80 it's a bit expensive. They have been in business for years and take exceptional care over the car, but I've seen other's do a real "bodge" job over the years. There is about 12 of them that do the work, and they don't seem to have a high turnover of staff so we've got friendly with them.
When I took the Noble to them they showed me everything they were going to use before they did it just to be sure I was happy, including letting me check the soap mit for any dirt.
I think if you find one that's consistent, and then build up a relationship with them, you can get an excellent job done for very little money (we pay £16 a go for the X5 for an "outside and in Number 3")
J
joust said:
Even the good ones aren't going to have top quality products and perfectly clean sponges etc. Well not unless you hire one a valetter with a van, and all the gubbins.
The one I use seems that for every car they use new, clean microfibre cloths (they even have the washing machine on site), and they seem to use commercial versions of CarPlan, Turtle wax etc. There is also the option of using Zymol for waxing (not that we ever get the X5 waxed
They have been in business for years and take exceptional care over the car, but I've seen other's do a real "bodge" job over the years. There is about 12 of them that do the work, and they don't seem to have a high turnover of staff so we've got friendly with them.
When I took the Noble to them they showed me everything they were going to use before they did it just to be sure I was happy, including letting me check the soap mit for any dirt.
I think if you find one that's consistent, and then build up a relationship with them, you can get an excellent job done for very little money (we pay £16 a go for the X5 for an "outside and in Number 3")
J
Don't ya just love those cleaners in car-parks with the clrean (dirty!) water in containers that's already washed 25 cars and they ask "do you want your car washed mister"!!! Erm, nah!
I used to like the car wash on the Wandsworth one-way system (entrance just past Joe Macari cars) - it had the only industrial hot-air blower I've ever come across in a car-wash - you just drove through at the end and all of the water beaded off with no streaks - I'd love a domestic version (tried the hair-dryer (no jokes as to why I've got one from those who know me!) but it's too slow! :-) LOL
joust said:
Even the good ones aren't going to have top quality products and perfectly clean sponges etc. Well not unless you hire one a valetter with a van, and all the gubbins.
The one I use seems that for every car they use new, clean microfibre cloths (they even have the washing machine on site), and they seem to use commercial versions of CarPlan, Turtle wax etc. There is also the option of using Zymol for waxing (not that we ever get the X5 waxed
They have been in business for years and take exceptional care over the car, but I've seen other's do a real "bodge" job over the years. There is about 12 of them that do the work, and they don't seem to have a high turnover of staff so we've got friendly with them.
When I took the Noble to them they showed me everything they were going to use before they did it just to be sure I was happy, including letting me check the soap mit for any dirt.
I think if you find one that's consistent, and then build up a relationship with them, you can get an excellent job done for very little money (we pay £16 a go for the X5 for an "outside and in Number 3")
J
That sounds impressive. The ones near me are full of eastern European teenagers!
AMG Merc said:
DanH said:
Even the good ones aren't going to have top quality products and perfectly clean sponges etc. Well not unless you hire one a valetter with a van, and all the gubbins.
The one I use seems that for every car they use new, clean microfibre cloths (they even have the washing machine on site), and they seem to use commercial versions of CarPlan, Turtle wax etc. There is also the option of using Zymol for waxing (not that we ever get the X5 waxed
They have been in business for years and take exceptional care over the car, but I've seen other's do a real "bodge" job over the years. There is about 12 of them that do the work, and they don't seem to have a high turnover of staff so we've got friendly with them.
When I took the Noble to them they showed me everything they were going to use before they did it just to be sure I was happy, including letting me check the soap mit for any dirt.
I think if you find one that's consistent, and then build up a relationship with them, you can get an excellent job done for very little money (we pay £16 a go for the X5 for an "outside and in Number 3")
J
Don't ya just love those cleaners in car-parks with the clrean (dirty!) water in containers that's already washed 25 cars and they ask "do you want your car washed mister"!!! Erm, nah!
I used to like the car wash on the Wandsworth one-way system (entrance just past Joe Macari cars) - it had the only industrial hot-air blower I've ever come across in a car-wash - you just drove through at the end and all of the water beaded off with no streaks - I'd love a domestic version (tried the hair-dryer (no jokes as to why I've got one from those who know me!) but it's too slow! :-) LOL
Even the crappy ones near me have those! To be honest I think a shammy is better as it takes the water away rather than evaporating it leaving whatever was suspended in it.
DanH said:These are Polish AFAIK, but range from 18 to 40+.
That sounds impressive. The ones near me are full of eastern European teenagers!
Some of the nicest people I've ever met, and judging by the queues they get, people around here know they are the best.
You see AMG Mercs, BMWs, Ferrari's and the odd Aston Martin in there.
J
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