V8 Vantage SatNav Upgrade
V8 Vantage SatNav Upgrade
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knallen

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2 posts

138 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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I've been investigating how I can upgrade the SatNav on my Vantage V8 (registered Jan 08) so it gives me full post code recognition. I didn't realise I was driving a Volvo but apparently (as many of you most probably already know) its a Volvo SatNav system.

I have read on various sites including this one (although the posts are back in 2010) that it is possible.

Although it's not the best SatNav in the world it's better than the alternative which is having leads everywhere and wondering where to stick the suction pad.

I have spoken to the main dealers who seem to say no it's not possible but he didn't fill me with any confidence that he actually knew what he was talking about.

Has anyone done this recently and how did you do it? Is it just upgrading the discs (DVD) or does the firmware need to be upgraded as well. When I say firmware it may seem I know what I'm talking about but I haven't got a clue really.

djmac56

207 posts

207 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Hi yes it's possible. I expect that you have the DVD system rather than the hard drive based one, but both can be updated and the update even adds some lane guidance functionality.

Jockman

18,414 posts

191 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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I used censored. on the old DBNoyne.

Last time I posted a link it was removed by Big Al.....and I still have no idea why confused

ETA

We believe that there is copyright issues here.

Edited by Big Al. on Thursday 14th May 17:36

knallen

Original Poster:

2 posts

138 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Great ! Is it just a case of getting upgraded Volvo SatNav discs ?

Jockman

18,414 posts

191 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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I contacted them IIRC by email and furnished them with the car details and they sent me a disc.

Next thing you know I have full postcode locator. Took a couple of hours to update smile

Jockman

18,414 posts

191 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Ironically, I received an email from them about an hour ago - contact...

rustymidgetman@sky.com,

Neil1300r

5,780 posts

209 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Jockman said:
I used censored on the old DBNoyne.

Last time I posted a link it was removed by Big Al.....and I still have no idea why confused
Because they are selling illegally copied software?

marshalla

15,902 posts

232 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Neil1300r said:
Because they are selling illegally copied software?
From that site's Ts&Cs

"IMPORTANT: To purchase these back-up satnav discs you must own the original . These satnav discs are for back-up purposes only. When Purchasing any of these sat nav discs, we therefore assume you have the original in your possession. Our function is strictly to backup your original software to protect it from damage, accidental or otherwise. We provide these back-ups as a service. We will not be held accountable for the buyers use. If you sell your original software, you will destroy the backup of the title. If you imply piracy, then we cannot legally provide a back-up service for you, and we hold no liability for anything you, the buyer will do with the backup, You understand that from purchasing these backups from us, that you are stating to us that you have the original copy of that title, and we will supply it to you on that understanding only. If you imply to us that you do not own the original copy of the satnav disc, then we cannot supply you with the disc, as you have no legal rights to own it."

They're selling knock-off copies and claiming there's some sort of exemption under Copyright, Designs & Patents Act. They're wrong - they're in breach because they're making backups and selling the backups that they've made. The exemption for creating a backup extends to the licence-holder only (i.e. the purchaser of the original software).

simonpa

381 posts

314 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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knallen said:
Great ! Is it just a case of getting upgraded Volvo SatNav discs ?
Yes - you can usually get a better deal from a Volvo dealer/supplier than AM (but astonmartinbits may have them too.
Upgrade is simple - you put the disk in and it updates itself - keeping the AM startup logo in place.

Note - the satnav DVD reader is pretty pants and prefers the car to be stationary and level (really) to do it's thang.
I've got a sloping drive and the satnav sometimes gives a read error if I start up the nav on the drive, rather than on the road.


Jockman

18,414 posts

191 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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marshalla said:
Neil1300r said:
Because they are selling illegally copied software?
From that site's Ts&Cs

"IMPORTANT: To purchase these back-up satnav discs you must own the original . These satnav discs are for back-up purposes only. When Purchasing any of these sat nav discs, we therefore assume you have the original in your possession. Our function is strictly to backup your original software to protect it from damage, accidental or otherwise. We provide these back-ups as a service. We will not be held accountable for the buyers use. If you sell your original software, you will destroy the backup of the title. If you imply piracy, then we cannot legally provide a back-up service for you, and we hold no liability for anything you, the buyer will do with the backup, You understand that from purchasing these backups from us, that you are stating to us that you have the original copy of that title, and we will supply it to you on that understanding only. If you imply to us that you do not own the original copy of the satnav disc, then we cannot supply you with the disc, as you have no legal rights to own it."

They're selling knock-off copies and claiming there's some sort of exemption under Copyright, Designs & Patents Act. They're wrong - they're in breach because they're making backups and selling the backups that they've made. The exemption for creating a backup extends to the licence-holder only (i.e. the purchaser of the original software).
For the avoidance of doubt...is what they are doing illegal? If so, why are they still trading?

marshalla

15,902 posts

232 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Jockman said:
For the avoidance of doubt...is what they are doing illegal? If so, why are they still trading?
Yes, it is. They are copying and selling the discs without permission from the rights holder. Only the purchaser (licence holder) is permitted to produce backups under the CDP Act. They're trying to get round this by claiming they're providing a service for legitimate licence holders, but that exemption doesn't exist in the act.

Why are they still trading ? Not enough people reporting them, enforcement agencies overstretched with other jobs & tight budgets and rights holders who can't be bothered supplying the enforcement agencies with the evidence they need to prosecute successfully.

Jockman

18,414 posts

191 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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marshalla said:
Yes, it is. They are copying and selling the discs without permission from the rights holder. Only the purchaser (licence holder) is permitted to produce backups under the CDP Act. They're trying to get round this by claiming they're providing a service for legitimate licence holders, but that exemption doesn't exist in the act.

Why are they still trading ? Not enough people reporting them, enforcement agencies overstretched with other jobs & tight budgets and rights holders who can't be bothered supplying the enforcement agencies with the evidence they need to prosecute successfully.
By not prosecuting, are the authorities not establishing some form of 'entitlement' for this company to continue trading?

marshalla

15,902 posts

232 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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No.

montecristo

1,081 posts

208 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Jockman said:
By not prosecuting, are the authorities not establishing some form of 'entitlement' for this company to continue trading?
" ... , m'lud".

Cockey

1,387 posts

259 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Just to mention, the postcode search is hidden away in the "enter address" option. You get given two choices, enter address or enter postcode.

I thought I had the old software but turned out I was up to date.

Neil1300r

5,780 posts

209 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Jockman said:
By not prosecuting, are the authorities not establishing some form of 'entitlement' for this company to continue trading?
Then they go bust
And start up again in the wife's name

NCE 817

4 posts

105 months

Friday 1st February 2019
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Upgrade discs avail from McGurks. Got 6 fig postcode on mine now

JK_vantage

46 posts

109 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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My recommendation is;)