Witch (creeping up wizzards rear) is best?
Witch (creeping up wizzards rear) is best?
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UKBoB

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16,277 posts

294 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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Witch on a broomstick up a hill comes to the top and finds wizzard waiting to pull out in his giant crystal ball. How does she stop herself from going backwards?

Ive always slipped the clutch, but if it induces wear it cant be good! The cerbera hand brake is as good as broke, useless on a steep hill anyway(!) and with no bumper, in fear of cracking the fiberglass arse-end from even a small bump (especially when Im not used to the car!) Id rather not jump off the anchors and give it some wailing welly hoping to start going forwards before moving back into whoever is creeping up my rear, figuratively speaking of course

Witch is the preferred method for cerbera owners, does anyone ride their clutch or make a point of never doing som, just how bad is it, and is it just me or on gentle hills does the cerbera "not" roll backwards as I would expect it to?

Byff

4,427 posts

290 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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I usually sit with the brakes on, no handbrake and out of gear.

When it's time to go, engage first, gradually let out clutch until you feel the bite, release the brakes, quickly side stepping onto the accelerator and pull away as normal.

You get used to it after a while. The first few goes, you either stall, or wheel spin away.

kojak

4,547 posts

282 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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The handbrake.

When I picked my cerbera up, I went to fill her up with some optimax. When walking to the kiosk to pay, I noticed my lovely blue cerb rolling out of the forecourt. I crapped myself. I also felt a right plonker.

Some cerbera handbrakes work; most are crap.

I dont 'ride the clutch', but try to use the brake/loud pedal together with my right foot.

satman

2,455 posts

275 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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kojak said:
The handbrake.

When I picked my cerbera up, I went to fill her up with some optimax. When walking to the kiosk to pay, I noticed my lovely blue cerb rolling out of the forecourt. I crapped myself. I also felt a right plonker.

Some cerbera handbrakes work; most are crap.

I dont 'ride the clutch', but try to use the brake/loud pedal together with my right foot.


My handbrake works an absolute treat now Joos carried out his handbrake modification...

kojak

4,547 posts

282 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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satman said:

kojak said:
The handbrake.

When I picked my cerbera up, I went to fill her up with some optimax. When walking to the kiosk to pay, I noticed my lovely blue cerb rolling out of the forecourt. I crapped myself. I also felt a right plonker.

Some cerbera handbrakes work; most are crap.

I dont 'ride the clutch', but try to use the brake/loud pedal together with my right foot.



My handbrake works an absolute treat now Joos carried out his handbrake modification...


I should get it done really. As you know, around Sheffield isn't exactly flat.

Tripps

5,814 posts

301 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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kojak said:
When I picked my cerbera up, I went to fill her up with some optimax. When walking to the kiosk to pay, I noticed my lovely blue cerb rolling out of the forecourt. I crapped myself. I also felt a right plonker.


Glad its not just me, did the same with my old S3 and it gently rolled into the car in front... Managed to move it back without them noticing, but got pointed and laughed at by others!

FourWheelDrift

92,237 posts

313 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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satman said:

My handbrake works an absolute treat now Joos carried out his handbrake modification...


Excellent



A Cerbera handbrake modification, yesterday.

kojak

4,547 posts

282 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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FourWheelDrift said:

satman said:

My handbrake works an absolute treat now Joos carried out his handbrake modification...



Excellent



A Cerbera handbrake modification, yesterday.


Brilliant

Best thing i've seen on here for ages Darren.

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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God, I'm seeing you bunch of girls in a completely new light.

I DONT THINK I HAVE EVER USED A HANDBRAKE IN ANY CAR I'VE EVER OWNED.

I thought only people hot off the press who had just read the highway code did this.

Whats wrong with heel and toe. The reason heel and toe got started was because of this. It wasn't invented by racing drivers. It was invented by cars of the time with no handbrakes worth talking about.

Bit like double declutching. Nothing to do with racing initially, but was invented out of necessity for non synchro gearboxes.

2 Smokin Barrels

31,988 posts

264 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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Julian64 said:
God, I'm seeing you bunch of girls in a completely new light.

I DONT THINK I HAVE EVER USED A HANDBRAKE IN ANY CAR I'VE EVER OWNED.

I thought only people hot off the press who had just read the highway code did this.

Whats wrong with heel and toe. The reason heel and toe got started was because of this. It wasn't invented by racing drivers. It was invented by cars of the time with no handbrakes worth talking about.

Bit like double declutching. Nothing to do with racing initially, but was invented out of necessity for non synchro gearboxes.


Tricky in high heels y'know

kojak

4,547 posts

282 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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Julian64 said:
God, I'm seeing you bunch of girls in a completely new light.

I DONT THINK I HAVE EVER USED A HANDBRAKE IN ANY CAR I'VE EVER OWNED.

I thought only people hot off the press who had just read the highway code did this.

Whats wrong with heel and toe. The reason heel and toe got started was because of this. It wasn't invented by racing drivers. It was invented by cars of the time with no handbrakes worth talking about.

Bit like double declutching. Nothing to do with racing initially, but was invented out of necessity for non synchro gearboxes.



Come and live up here. We have hills. Its not like kent, that has a similar landscape to Holland.

yellow peril

5,131 posts

301 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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kojak said:
The handbrake.

most are crap.





Byff is right....you'll either stall or take off like a scalded cat..

After being told, very firmly on my first ride out in the right hand seat, not to have a heavy right foot when pulling away....I stalled.....
several times...

I still don't like the fact that the handbrake is crap.
It's why I don't drive it often and if that makes me a big girl...well okay....I am...so that's about right!!

I keep trying to persuade Ray to take the Peril to Jools.......but he does the heel & toe thing so well that he sees no need for it.

Great piccy FWD........

...//P//

J_S_G

6,177 posts

279 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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Julian64 said:
God, I'm seeing you bunch of girls in a completely new light.

...

Whats wrong with heel and toe. The reason heel and toe got started was because of this. It wasn't invented by racing drivers. It was invented by cars of the time with no handbrakes worth talking about.

What's wrong with just having reactions marginally faster than a tortoise on tranqs? Switching from foot-on-brake to feeding in the clutch whilst having the revs up around 1400 RPM or so shouldn't take more than a couple of tenths of a second. No need to heel and toe unless we're talking a 1 in 10 incline with another car 3 inches from your front & rear bumpers. You shandy-swilling lentilist!

Tripps

5,814 posts

301 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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yellow peril said:
After being told, very firmly on my first ride out in the right hand seat, not to have a heavy right foot when pulling away....I stalled.....
several times...
Did this too out in my first TVR drive ever (a 450 Chim), the mate who owned it had let other people loose who gave it to much welly and decorated the tarmac in rubber, so he suggested 2nd, but I kept stalling it as I was too gentle.

Eventually decided 1st was best, and had no troubles, fell in love, and here I am now

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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kojak said:

Julian64 said:
God, I'm seeing you bunch of girls in a completely new light.

I DONT THINK I HAVE EVER USED A HANDBRAKE IN ANY CAR I'VE EVER OWNED.

I thought only people hot off the press who had just read the highway code did this.

Whats wrong with heel and toe. The reason heel and toe got started was because of this. It wasn't invented by racing drivers. It was invented by cars of the time with no handbrakes worth talking about.

Bit like double declutching. Nothing to do with racing initially, but was invented out of necessity for non synchro gearboxes.




Come and live up here. We have hills. Its not like kent, that has a similar landscape to Holland.




Although I'm sure if we were both sitting on a hill, my footbake would work better than your handbrake.

redleicester

6,869 posts

274 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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Nah you lazy lot - ride the clutch! Saves going to the gym and you end up with thighs like tree trunks.

Well...

Erm...

...One like a tree trunk, and the other a rather weedy sapling!

satman

2,455 posts

275 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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Julian64 said:
God, I'm seeing you bunch of girls in a completely new light.




Says him with a 'girlypink' motor!

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

281 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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J_S_G said:


What's wrong with just having reactions marginally faster than a tortoise on tranqs? Switching from foot-on-brake to feeding in the clutch whilst having the revs up around 1400 RPM or so shouldn't take more than a couple of tenths of a second. No need to heel and toe unless we're talking a 1 in 10 incline with another car 3 inches from your front & rear bumpers. You shandy-swilling lentilist!


Exactly. Just sit with your foot on the brake and out of gear, when moving off, put it in gear, let of the brake and catch the car with the throttle. You'll roll back half an inch at most.

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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satman said:

Julian64 said:
God, I'm seeing you bunch of girls in a completely new light.





Says him with a 'girlypink' motor!


Nightfire red, 'Does that sound girly to you?', NOOOO, its a manly violent, throbbing, thrusting colour. Its fire that comes in the night, the firey eyes of the demon who torments, yet excites, the blue eyed maidens.

Okay, I going off for a shower now. Short answer Red good.

hughesie2

12,790 posts

311 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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2 Smokin Barrels said:


Tricky in high heels y'know


Steve in high heel shocker