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UKBob

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16,277 posts

294 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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Whats the deal, from the point of view of people who have either been caught, seen but not caught, and also from the bib.

IMHO, they are a very safe way of enjoying the power and performance of a car that I'd rather not be speeding in. Tesco car park at night seems aptly suited, away from residential houses... but should the bib approach, what kind of attitude would they likely harbour? I assume getting points is totally out of the question, and equally not possible!! (?)

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Monday 24th January 2005
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A mates brother got done for this..

he claimed it was in an empty grass car park that some guys playing football had just left.


Plod claimed people had to move out of the way...( thye had the place staked out as it was known for messing about, and nicked loads of peeps... The problem was one of bgggering up the grass rather than danger)


He got 12 month ban 1000 quid fine plus 500 in costs for dangerous driving..

so when he gets his licence back he'll probably be able to insure a moped if he wins the lottery...

a real shame as he's a nice lad with some excellent car control. ( whilst waiting for his court case he came second in a drift club event)

Streetcop

5,907 posts

267 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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Section 59 of the Police Reform Act 2002 could be used...

ie: warning once and further occurances resulting in the vehicle being seized...

towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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Graham said:
he claimed it was in an empty grass car park that some guys playing football had just left.


Larking about on someone elses grass is pretty dumb as it does damage the surface. It just gives "the authorities" the opportunity to give you grief if they wish. An empty tarmac area away from residential areas would be preferrable every time.

Interesting though that there are often threads on here moaning about chavs in Novas wheelspinning around the local B&Q car park. Is the cost of the vehicle relative to how much of a bad boy the driver is?

Steve

Mr E

23,059 posts

288 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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Not something I'd do in a public space to be honest. Just asking for a pull.

TripleS

4,294 posts

271 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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towman said:
Larking about on someone elses grass is pretty dumb as it does damage the surface. It just gives "the authorities" the opportunity to give you grief if they wish.

Steve


Around the war memorial on Olivers Mount at Scarborough there are two grassed areas. They have been there as long as I can remember, certainly they were there before 1955, and in those days nobody ever seemed to drive vehicles onto them.

A few years ago Scarborough Borough Council installed a series of timber posts around the perimeter to prevent people driving cars onto the grass and churning it up by performing various antics. There must be at least 100 of these posts, quite chunky things they are too, each with a socket in the ground and a padlock so they can be removed and re-fitted at grass cutting times.

We will have paid for all that, simply because people will now do stupid tricks that would not have been contemplated fifty years ago. Progress eh?

Best wishes all,
Dave.



sparkythecat

8,097 posts

284 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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Deliberately or recklessly laying trails of rubber down on someone else's car park ammounts to Criminal Damage, doees it not?

TripleS

4,294 posts

271 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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sparkythecat said:
Deliberately or recklessly laying trails of rubber down on someone else's car park ammounts to Criminal Damage, doees it not?


Do tyre marks really count as damage? It sounds a bit OTT, as they soon fade away.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

sparkythecat

8,097 posts

284 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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TripleS said:

sparkythecat said:
Deliberately or recklessly laying trails of rubber down on someone else's car park ammounts to Criminal Damage, doees it not?



Do tyre marks really count as damage? It sounds a bit OTT, as they soon fade away.

Best wishes all,
Dave.


If I hit you causing a bruise, you'd want me charging with assault even though that would soon fade away

If I threw milk all over the bonnet of your lovely car, you'd want me charging with damage even though that would soon fade away.

But if I mixed in flour and eggs, would I be guilty of battery?

BlackStuff

463 posts

270 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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If you want to play at doing donuts then go and join a motor club and enter a "Production Car Autotest", which provide you with a day's tyre shredding mayhem in a legal environment and cost of about a tenner!

The only downside is that unless your car control is extremely good, then your £50k supercar will tend to get seriously embarrassed by the local experts who will typically run £100 throwaway Novas!

But you will have a lot of fun and learn a great deal about car control. One day you might even end up this good...

[url]http://korvideo.free.fr/200411/maitrise.wmv[/url]

chassis

300 posts

295 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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UKBob said:

IMHO, they are a very safe way of enjoying the power and performance of a car that I'd rather not be speeding in.


Do not forget it also make you look complete nob so you can sleep with chav girlfriend!

Fat Audi 80

2,403 posts

280 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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TripleS said:

towman said:
Larking about on someone elses grass is pretty dumb as it does damage the surface. It just gives "the authorities" the opportunity to give you grief if they wish.

Steve



Around the war memorial on Olivers Mount at Scarborough there are two grassed areas. They have been there as long as I can remember, certainly they were there before 1955, and in those days nobody ever seemed to drive vehicles onto them.

A few years ago Scarborough Borough Council installed a series of timber posts around the perimeter to prevent people driving cars onto the grass and churning it up by performing various antics. There must be at least 100 of these posts, quite chunky things they are too, each with a socket in the ground and a padlock so they can be removed and re-fitted at grass cutting times.

We will have paid for all that, simply because people will now do stupid tricks that would not have been contemplated fifty years ago. Progress eh?

Best wishes all,
Dave.





Spot on!

Sorry but Doughnuts are for Chavs in Tescos car park, end of.

Join a club and do it properly FFS

TripleS

4,294 posts

271 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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sparkythecat said:

TripleS said:


sparkythecat said:
Deliberately or recklessly laying trails of rubber down on someone else's car park ammounts to Criminal Damage, doees it not?




Do tyre marks really count as damage? It sounds a bit OTT, as they soon fade away.

Best wishes all,
Dave.



If I hit you causing a bruise, you'd want me charging with assault even though that would soon fade away

If I threw milk all over the bonnet of your lovely car, you'd want me charging with damage even though that would soon fade away.

But if I mixed in flour and eggs, would I be guilty of battery?


Very good.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

MilnerR

8,273 posts

287 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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Fat Audi 80 said:



Sorry but Doughnuts are for Chavs in Tescos car park, end of.

Join a club and do it properly FFS



How do you do doughnuts in a 1.0 FWD Saxo btw?

wtd

818 posts

262 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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MilnerR said:

Fat Audi 80 said:



Sorry but Doughnuts are for Chavs in Tescos car park, end of.

Join a club and do it properly FFS




How do you do doughnuts in a 1.0 FWD Saxo btw?


In reverse?

UKbob

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

294 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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Fat Audi 80 said:

TripleS said:


towman said:
Larking about on someone elses grass is pretty dumb as it does damage the surface. It just gives "the authorities" the opportunity to give you grief if they wish.

Steve




Around the war memorial on Olivers Mount at Scarborough there are two grassed areas. They have been there as long as I can remember, certainly they were there before 1955, and in those days nobody ever seemed to drive vehicles onto them.

A few years ago Scarborough Borough Council installed a series of timber posts around the perimeter to prevent people driving cars onto the grass and churning it up by performing various antics. There must be at least 100 of these posts, quite chunky things they are too, each with a socket in the ground and a padlock so they can be removed and re-fitted at grass cutting times.

We will have paid for all that, simply because people will now do stupid tricks that would not have been contemplated fifty years ago. Progress eh?

Best wishes all,
Dave.






Spot on!

Sorry but Doughnuts are for Chavs in Tescos car park, end of.

Join a club and do it properly FFS


Sorry, Rolleyes and FFS indeed A pants down spanking for merely asking fellow PHers. Street, would you like the honours, I must be a chav in need of correction

Just questions mate, chill pill, 'end of'

john_p

7,073 posts

279 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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MilnerR said:

Fat Audi 80 said:



Sorry but Doughnuts are for Chavs in Tescos car park, end of.

Join a club and do it properly FFS




How do you do doughnuts in a 1.0 FWD Saxo btw?


Put two McDonalds trays under the back wheels

UKbob

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

294 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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john_p said:

MilnerR said:


Fat Audi 80 said:



Sorry but Doughnuts are for Chavs in Tescos car park, end of.

Join a club and do it properly FFS





How do you do doughnuts in a 1.0 FWD Saxo btw?



Put two McDonalds trays under the back wheels

andygo

7,394 posts

284 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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If I hit you causing a bruise, you'd want me charging with assault even though that would soon fade away

If I threw milk all over the bonnet of your lovely car, you'd want me charging with damage even though that would soon fade away.

But if I mixed in flour and eggs, would I be guilty of battery?[/quote]

Depends if you were charged or not. If charged, you could be kept in a Duracell...

gone

6,649 posts

292 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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Streetcop said:
Section 59 of the Police Reform Act 2002 could be used...

ie: warning once and further occurances resulting in the vehicle being seized...


Car parks may not be roads (in some cases they could be!) but they are public places.

Sect 2 and 3 RTA 1988 apply to roads or public places!
That includes driving without reasonable consideration!

Section 2 & 3 RTA 1988 have severe penalties including disqualification!