Why I am so proud of Gordon and Tony
Discussion
A letter published in today's Shropshire Star 
As I watched the television pictures of Gordon Brown in Africa and as Tony Blair prepared for the leadership of the G8 and the European Union it made me wonder how long it was since we had such giants of leadership at the helm of our country - certainly not in my lifetime, and I'm 60.
During their joint stewardship, and you can't leave Gordon out given what his economic leadership has achieved, this country has prospered like no other time in our recent history.
During earlier years in my lifetime we have been the sick man of Europe, thinking that never again would we achieve economic prosperity.
We heard Tory chancellors say of unemployment (when it was at three million) that it "was a price worth paying" and of a shambles of an education and health services that that was "all we could afford".
Blair and Brown refused to accept such despair and taught us to be proud of ourselves again and now we are the envy of many an economy across the Western world.
But there is much more to be done still for our public services.
Do we trust their future to people who talk about investment or to those who put tax cuts at the top their agenda?
Giants or pygmies?
Alex Beyer, Priorslee, Telford
Any comments?
As I watched the television pictures of Gordon Brown in Africa and as Tony Blair prepared for the leadership of the G8 and the European Union it made me wonder how long it was since we had such giants of leadership at the helm of our country - certainly not in my lifetime, and I'm 60.
During their joint stewardship, and you can't leave Gordon out given what his economic leadership has achieved, this country has prospered like no other time in our recent history.
During earlier years in my lifetime we have been the sick man of Europe, thinking that never again would we achieve economic prosperity.
We heard Tory chancellors say of unemployment (when it was at three million) that it "was a price worth paying" and of a shambles of an education and health services that that was "all we could afford".
Blair and Brown refused to accept such despair and taught us to be proud of ourselves again and now we are the envy of many an economy across the Western world.
But there is much more to be done still for our public services.
Do we trust their future to people who talk about investment or to those who put tax cuts at the top their agenda?
Giants or pygmies?
Alex Beyer, Priorslee, Telford
Any comments?
regmolehusband said:
Do we trust their future to people who talk about investment or to those who put tax cuts at the top their agenda?
Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Tax cuts.
Prospering while our liberties are reduced by the government and our posessions are removed by scrotes isn't exactly my idea of success!
I'm sure the residents of 1930's Germany thought they'd never had it so good, as they quickly recovered from the Depression. The jewish members of that society were happy doing great business as their economy prospered...
Putting that to one side, I do seriously applaud what Brown has done, BUT - he has increased the amount of indirect taxation notably, as well as the amount of fines levied against citizens.
What Tiny B Liar, Last Straw, and David Blunder-kit have done...well, the swear filter would thwart my attempts at description there. I am seriously afraid of a third Labour term, but I do not see any viable alternative in either mainstream party, and despise the bigotry of UKIP.
I'm sure the residents of 1930's Germany thought they'd never had it so good, as they quickly recovered from the Depression. The jewish members of that society were happy doing great business as their economy prospered...
Putting that to one side, I do seriously applaud what Brown has done, BUT - he has increased the amount of indirect taxation notably, as well as the amount of fines levied against citizens.
What Tiny B Liar, Last Straw, and David Blunder-kit have done...well, the swear filter would thwart my attempts at description there. I am seriously afraid of a third Labour term, but I do not see any viable alternative in either mainstream party, and despise the bigotry of UKIP.
my letter would have said:
As I watched the television pictures of Gordon Brown in Africa and as Tony Blair prepared for the leadership of the G8 and the European Union it made me wonder how long it was since we had such cheating, untrustworthy liars at the helm of our country - certainly not in my lifetime, and I'm 26.
During their joint stewardship, and you can't excuse Gordon given what his economic leadership has achieved, this country has redistributed wealth from the hard-working to the spongers like no other time in our recent history.
During earlier years in my lifetime we have gone from being bailed out by the world bank and crippled by union dinosaurs to a successful free-market economy with a strong entrepreneurial spirit. In recent years however small businesses have been labouring under an increasing tax burden and ever more ill-thought-out legislation.
We heard Tory chancellors say of unemployment (when it was at three million) that it "was a price worth paying" and of a shambles of an education and health services that that was "all we could afford". Nowadays we either put people onto disability benefits to avoid having to count them as unemployed or give them well-paid council jobs-obviously continued employment is contingent on voting Labour thereby ensuring our support. We continue to throw money at the NHS and education systems whilst hoping that people don't notice they now have to pay top-up fees, even though we promised that they wouldn't.
Blair and Brown refused to accept that things were running fine and taught us to snoop on each other whilst bringing in swathes of un-needed human rights legislation and banning everything they don't like whilst riding roughshod over the House of Lords to legalise anything they do like. Now we are the envy of many an economy across the Western world, although we will be facing raised taxes again to pay for their profligate waste.
But there is much more to be done still for our public services.
Do we trust their future to people who talk about investment or to those who put tax cuts at the top their agenda?
Do we trust those who have contempt for us, feel compelled to interfere in our lives, have absolutely no integrity, look after nobody but their cronies, politicise the civil service and BBC and wish to remove the few threads of liberty we still enjoy?
Or do we give the others a chance?
Giants or pygmies?
Vote labour everyone
wolves_wanderer, Peterborough
>> Edited by wolves_wanderer on Tuesday 25th January 15:27
wolves_wanderer said:
As I watched the television pictures of Gordon Brown in Africa and as Tony Blair prepared for the leadership of the G8 and the European Union it made me wonder how long it was since we had such cheating, untrustworthy liars at the helm of our country - certainly not in my lifetime, and I'm 26.
During their joint stewardship, and you can't excuse Gordon given what his economic leadership has achieved, this country has redistributed wealth from the hard-working to the spongers like no other time in our recent history.
During earlier years in my lifetime we have gone from being bailed out by the world bank and crippled by union dinosaurs to a successful free-market economy with a strong entrepreneurial spirit. In recent years however small businesses have been labouring under an increasing tax burden and ever more ill-thought-out legislation.
We heard Tory chancellors say of unemployment (when it was at three million) that it "was a price worth paying" and of a shambles of an education and health services that that was "all we could afford". Nowadays we either put people onto disability benefits to avoid having to count them as unemployed or give them well-paid council jobs-obviously continued employment is contingent on voting Labour thereby ensuring our support. We continue to throw money at the NHS and education systems whilst hoping that people don't notice they now have to pay top-up fees, even though we promised that they wouldn't.
Blair and Brown refused to accept that things were running fine and taught us to snoop on each other whilst bringing in swathes of un-needed human rights legislation and banning everything they don't like whilst riding roughshod over the House of Lords to legalise anything they do like. Now we are the envy of many an economy across the Western world, although we will be facing raised taxes again to pay for their profligate waste.
But there is much more to be done still for our public services.
Do we trust their future to people who talk about investment or to those who put tax cuts at the top their agenda?
Do we trust those who have contempt for us, feel compelled to interfere in our lives, have absolutely no integrity, look after nobody but their cronies, politicise the civil service and BBC and wish to remove the few threads of liberty we still enjoy?
Or do we give the others a chance?
Giants or pygmies?
Vote labour everyone
wolves_wanderer, Peterborough
>> Edited by wolves_wanderer on Tuesday 25th January 15:27
unbelievable. that is exactly what I would've put - bravo WW
havoc said:
Prospering while our liberties are reduced by the government and our posessions are removed by scrotes isn't exactly my idea of success!
I'm sure the residents of 1930's Germany thought they'd never had it so good, as they quickly recovered from the Depression. The jewish members of that society were happy doing great business as their economy prospered...
You can not compare the Blair Government with the Nazi Government of the 1930's the whole ideology is different for a start Hitler beleived in a form of Socialism
john75 said:
You can not compare the Blair Government with the Nazi Government of the 1930's the whole ideology is different for a start Hitler beleived in a form of Socialism
Hmm...
Seriously - both leaders have/had the same sort of belief / vision - that they would re-create their country for the better for the people, both twisted true socialism (NOT the socialist worker naive idealism), and both busily recruited believers to their cause, who then, "wow, who'd have thought it", got jobs or contracts with that government!!!
And both went about it by restricting personal freedoms as "that is obviously the best way to protect the populace".
regmolehusband said:
A letter published in today's Shropshire Star
As I watched the television pictures of Gordon Brown in Africa and as Tony Blair prepared for the leadership of the G8 and the European Union it made me wonder how long it was since we had such giants of leadership at the helm of our country - certainly not in my lifetime, and I'm 60.
During their joint stewardship, and you can't leave Gordon out given what his economic leadership has achieved, this country has prospered like no other time in our recent history.
During earlier years in my lifetime we have been the sick man of Europe, thinking that never again would we achieve economic prosperity.
We heard Tory chancellors say of unemployment (when it was at three million) that it "was a price worth paying" and of a shambles of an education and health services that that was "all we could afford".
Blair and Brown refused to accept such despair and taught us to be proud of ourselves again and now we are the envy of many an economy across the Western world.
But there is much more to be done still for our public services.
Do we trust their future to people who talk about investment or to those who put tax cuts at the top their agenda?
Giants or pygmies?
Alex Beyer, Priorslee, Telford
Any comments?
I happen to largely agree. I'm not 60 or a Labour party member. I am also proud to be British and live here through choice rather than an accident of birth. This appears to make me a minoity ontt this board.
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I'm very proud to be British. What I object to is the steady destruction of the British way of life. The rights of the individual have been severely eroded; the choices that we are allowed to make in our everyday lives have narrowed. Our economic freedom is tied to the whim of the exchequer like never before. The government in office today is concerned primarily with extending its power in every direction; to take a closer and closer interest in the activities of its citizens.
An Englishmans home is no longer his castle!
An Englishmans home is no longer his castle!
Writer is an idiot. Charity should be UN administered, and not to dictators who squander it on weapons and Mercedes Benzes. Now if they squandered it on British made weapons, Land Rovers, Rolls Royces and Jaguars I'd say that was reasonable.
But seriously, tax in Britain, particularly that on businesses needs to be cut URGENTLY. Otherwise there isn't going to be any wealth to give in the future.
But seriously, tax in Britain, particularly that on businesses needs to be cut URGENTLY. Otherwise there isn't going to be any wealth to give in the future.
He has presided over sleaze when he said his government would be whiter than white, over massive stealth taxation when he said that taxes would not rise, he has made pensioners and students poorer when he claimed his 'social justice' programmes would benefit the most vulnerable and his mantra was "education education education", he has hogtied business with red tape when he said he was the friend of enterprise, he has taken away freedoms and interfered with what freedoms remain, he has set the police against middle england while giving holidays to scum, he has put basically honest citizens in the dock when real criminals walk free to terrorise us and laugh in our faces, he has dismantled the united kingdom plus many of its finest institutions and has castrated parliament, he has damaged freedom of speech and open government with political correctness and spin, he has strutted on the world stage while domestic problems festered, he has prioritised fox hunting and gay issues when the health service is failing patients and children remain illiterate, he has opened our borders to terrorists while using the threat from terrorism as an electoral gimmick, he has smeared and vilified those whose arguments he cannot counter, he has inflated his own pension while removing ours, he has lost the trust of the people and many in his party yet he clings selfishly to power and speaks of re-election like the vote of the people can be taken for granted. If he says it's raining we look out the window.
He is Tony Blair.
He is Tony Blair.
regmolehusband said:
A letter published in today's Shropshire Star
As I watched the television pictures of Gordon Brown in Africa and as Tony Blair prepared for the leadership of the G8 and the European Union it made me wonder how long it was since we had such giants of leadership at the helm of our country - certainly not in my lifetime, and I'm 60.
During their joint stewardship, and you can't leave Gordon out given what his economic leadership has achieved, this country has prospered like no other time in our recent history.
During earlier years in my lifetime we have been the sick man of Europe, thinking that never again would we achieve economic prosperity.
We heard Tory chancellors say of unemployment (when it was at three million) that it "was a price worth paying" and of a shambles of an education and health services that that was "all we could afford".
Blair and Brown refused to accept such despair and taught us to be proud of ourselves again and now we are the envy of many an economy across the Western world.
But there is much more to be done still for our public services.
Do we trust their future to people who talk about investment or to those who put tax cuts at the top their agenda?
Giants or pygmies?
Alex Beyer, Priorslee, Telford
Any comments?
What an absloute load of crap this is!
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