rolling road figures
rolling road figures
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doddze

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1,302 posts

263 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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I am sticking the AS on a rolling road on Saturday to see just what I have got...

they wil test and I quote.......

"Each power run will then consist of the following:
1. One gearing run to allow the rollers and software to ascertain loss factors at the wheels.
2. Two power runs will then be made taking the vehicle initially to the redline and then backed off if the power curve dictates for the second run.
You will then receive a graph detailing the following:
1. Brake Horsepower at the Flywheel
2. Torque at the Flywheel
3. Drag co-efficient - allowing you to calculate loss through the drivetrain and show BHP at the wheels
4. Air/Fuel Ratio curve throughout the run.
The main fan used simulates 75mph winds into the front of the vehicle. In addition we have upto six fresh air points that allow us to blow air onto different areas of the car (rear engined intercoolers, etc). The exhaust gasses are then vented by another fan at the rear of the vehicle."

I realise the car won't be near the TVR figures but waht might I expect ormore to the point when do I need to panic.

will report back but forewarned is ....... giving me a clue!!

by the way it is a S3c with cats.....but I think it sounds fine!!!

HarryW

15,849 posts

293 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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If your car is in sound condition and well maintained then as far as I'm concerned there's nothing to worry about.
However there is always a element of risk when you are taking the car to it maximum potential, particularly if you never used it yourself , it could be in uncharted territory so to speak.

Harry

doddze

Original Poster:

1,302 posts

263 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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I was thinking more of panicing when I saw the figures if they are sh*t.......... w3hen the car comes out it does get redlined and caned........ (always warm of course)

V8Smith

3,510 posts

277 months

Tuesday 25th January 2005
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Wow you really are panicking, you are shaking so much you clicked the send button four times......

Mike

Podie

46,647 posts

299 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Seeing your P&J on the rollers for the first time is a bit … but these guys know what they're doing, and I had faith in Paul at Austec when mine was done. After a while you learn to just watch and listen to your car, and think, jeez… it sounds

Oh, and if the figures are rubbish, then go to Austec and get "the full Podie"…

WildfireS3

9,919 posts

276 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Podie said:

After a while you learn to just watch and listen to your car, and think, jeez… it sounds


I also tend to think

"So that's why people get so angry. It is loud."

Anyhow scared the life out of me when I first put my mini on the rollers and the guy took it up tp 7500rpm.

Tripps

5,814 posts

296 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Don't worry about the figures to much for your S, when I had mine serviced at Austec last year my RR figures for power and torque were both other the TVR factory figures

Pies

13,116 posts

280 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Lose those cats,poor things are 12+ years old and could well be choking the poor engine

Let the girl breath i say

Podie

46,647 posts

299 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Pies said:
Lose those cats,poor things are 12+ years old and could well be choking the poor engine

Let the girl breath i say


Doddze's car has done about 14 miles...

WildfireS3

9,919 posts

276 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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decat!decat!decat!

Podie

46,647 posts

299 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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WildfireS3 said:
decat!decat!decat!


Think I paid about £50 per pipe… although I have seen £80 per pipe listed somewhere….

Certainly made it louder and it seemed more responsive… but then it wasn't long till I visited Austec...

Pies

13,116 posts

280 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Podie said:

Pies said:
Lose those cats,poor things are 12+ years old and could well be choking the poor engine

Let the girl breath i say



Doddze's car has done about 14 miles...


I know which means most of the journeys have been short so relatively lots of start ups

marcus

49 posts

308 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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My S3 gave someting like 135 BHP at the wheels, 179 at the flywheel (calculated) at Power Engineering in 1998.

I remember seeing the 135 figure and thinking, hey, I've been robbed - then they showed me the flywheel figure and I was well pleased.

This was after about an hour tweaking and fettling the throttles (hole in one butterfly plugged, timing tweaked and I had already cleaned the plugs and set the tappets to spot on or -1 thou on min recommended.
I had also changed oil and filter about 300 miles previously and cleaned air filter, throttles and air by-pass v/v.

Since then the car has showed 199 BHP flywheel (152 at the wheels), but at a different albeit seemingly reliable road. this was after a bit of judicious rebuilding, polishing and porting, etc

Marcus

marcus

49 posts

308 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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My S3 gave someting like 135 BHP at the wheels, 179 at the flywheel (calculated) at Power Engineering in 1998.

I remember seeing the 135 figure and thinking, hey, I've been robbed - then they showed me the flywheel figure and I was well pleased.

This was after about an hour tweaking and fettling the throttles (hole in one butterfly plugged, timing tweaked and I had already cleaned the plugs and set the tappets to spot on or -1 thou on min recommended.
I had also changed oil and filter about 300 miles previously and cleaned air filter, throttles and air by-pass v/v.

Since then the car has showed 199 BHP flywheel (152 at the wheels), but at a different albeit seemingly reliable road. this was after a bit of judicious rebuilding, polishing and porting, etc

Marcus

doddze

Original Poster:

1,302 posts

263 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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anyone know a local place "near to me in Essex" to get them done?

Pies

13,116 posts

280 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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doddze said:
anyone know a local place "near to me in Essex" to get them done?


Podie

WildfireS3

9,919 posts

276 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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doddze said:
anyone know a local place "near to me in Essex" to get them done?


Austec will decat, but if you want some engine work you can't go wrong with Burton Power.

doddze

Original Poster:

1,302 posts

263 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Anything a bit closer that anyone knows of.........

If I get the downpipes (anyone know where from?) is it difficult to fit them? ie could the local exhaust guys do it or is specialist equipment needed?

Podie

46,647 posts

299 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Pies said:

doddze said:
anyone know a local place "near to me in Essex" to get them done?



Podie


Mine were done at service by David Batty. To be honest it should be a straightforward job..

WildfireS3

9,919 posts

276 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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doddze said:
Anything a bit closer that anyone knows of.........

If I get the downpipes (anyone know where from?) is it difficult to fit them? ie could the local exhaust guys do it or is specialist equipment needed?



Downpipes really easy. Specialist tools required, large rubber mallet.