concern over elderly neighbour
Discussion
Hi, I live in two storey flats and there used to be an elderly gentleman living in the flat underneath me. He moved out a few months ago to the other side of the estate in to some sheltered accommodation. I don't think any body is responsible for them and they are free to come and go as they please.
Anyways, he keeps turning up at his old flat forgetting where he lives, sometimes a bit drunk, but mostly just confused. He is sometimes still there in the morning when I come home from a night shift after being there all night shuffling around and trying peoples doors. He has come in to my flat three times now and also with another neighbour, last time was yesterday when I woke on the sofa to find him stood over me.
The first time, I spoke to the landlord who said that Trevor's health and wellbeing was being looked at, this was quite some time ago now and no further reply.
The second time, I called the police who turned up to escort him back (after about two hours, by which time he had shuffled of some where else) but said I should speak to social services if I was concerned about him.
After yesterdays third occasion I have now spoken to the social services who basically said I should speak to the police first and if they are concerned they would contact social services themselves. Or you could just lock your door was their other suggestion.
Trevor and I are not really friends for various reasons but I am concerned that he is going to end up in a ditch or something. I don't think he has much in the way of friends or family as there hasn't been many visitors over the years.
Ideally I would just want some body to become responsible for him but at the moment it seems no body wants that task.
Should I just let it go and keep my door locked?
Who else can I speak too?
thanks
Jay
Anyways, he keeps turning up at his old flat forgetting where he lives, sometimes a bit drunk, but mostly just confused. He is sometimes still there in the morning when I come home from a night shift after being there all night shuffling around and trying peoples doors. He has come in to my flat three times now and also with another neighbour, last time was yesterday when I woke on the sofa to find him stood over me.
The first time, I spoke to the landlord who said that Trevor's health and wellbeing was being looked at, this was quite some time ago now and no further reply.
The second time, I called the police who turned up to escort him back (after about two hours, by which time he had shuffled of some where else) but said I should speak to social services if I was concerned about him.
After yesterdays third occasion I have now spoken to the social services who basically said I should speak to the police first and if they are concerned they would contact social services themselves. Or you could just lock your door was their other suggestion.
Trevor and I are not really friends for various reasons but I am concerned that he is going to end up in a ditch or something. I don't think he has much in the way of friends or family as there hasn't been many visitors over the years.
Ideally I would just want some body to become responsible for him but at the moment it seems no body wants that task.
Should I just let it go and keep my door locked?
Who else can I speak too?
thanks
Jay
good for you worrying about him, too many damn people would just look away. Do you know if he has family? currently under some care package? How did he get in sheltered - someone probably involved in that. I think at the end of the day is report your concerns to social services if nobody else is listening.
and FFS lock your door.
and FFS lock your door.
I do lock my door when I go out but always felt safe round here, lived here a long time and never had any trouble.
There is a warden at the sheltered accommodation but apparently he is only there to help while they are on the premises and is not responsible for making sure they come back at night etc.
No family I don't think, they have never visited him if he does anyway.
It was social services I spoke to today, they say call police, police say speak to social services.
There is a warden at the sheltered accommodation but apparently he is only there to help while they are on the premises and is not responsible for making sure they come back at night etc.
No family I don't think, they have never visited him if he does anyway.
It was social services I spoke to today, they say call police, police say speak to social services.
In what way is it a police issue? Obviously SS have just heard 'come into my house' and missed (willfully?) the bit where he's mad as a box of frogs.
There must have been some intervention to get him in sheltered accommodation, there has probably been a deterioration since that assessment. It happened to wifeys Aunt. Her son was in US so we were keeping an eye on her, albeit from 30 miles away. It became apparent she was becoming a danger to herself and ended up going from sheltered into a home.
plug away a bit more - you know you are doing the right thing This is what society is about contrary to maggies views.
There must have been some intervention to get him in sheltered accommodation, there has probably been a deterioration since that assessment. It happened to wifeys Aunt. Her son was in US so we were keeping an eye on her, albeit from 30 miles away. It became apparent she was becoming a danger to herself and ended up going from sheltered into a home.
plug away a bit more - you know you are doing the right thing This is what society is about contrary to maggies views.
Is there anything in writing with social services? If it was all phone calls it might be taken lightly, and that can be disputed if anything happens. If you write a letter (or email at least) then it might underline your concerns, because there is evidence if they don't at least have somebody look into it.
Gareth79 said:
Is there anything in writing with social services? If it was all phone calls it might be taken lightly, and that can be disputed if anything happens. If you write a letter (or email at least) then it might underline your concerns, because there is evidence if they don't at least have somebody look into it.
however Soc Serv are correct that in the first instance the police are the responder of their choice ( or call an ambulance ... ) as there are ways and means to get things moving acutely ... Alex106 said:
Perhaps speak to your local Age UK they may be able to offer something other than 'lock your door'
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/OP, I hope there's someone like you around if I get to the point of struggling like Trevor apparently is. You're a good person.
ageuk, hadn't thought of that
it was just phone calls from myself so far
to be honest, I don't really want to be phoning the police again, he will only be gone by the time they turn up I imagine
this is just a guess to who ever asked but to get in the sheltered accommodation I think the nurse that used to visit him about his dodgy foot possibly got involved, or maybe one of the two visitors he used to get, one semi regular, other not so often, another neighbour actually knows the semi regular visitor so going to enquire with him I think as well
I guess ageuk should be my next stop though, or maybe help the aged is my local one I think, remember volunteering with them years ago
thanks for the suggestions so far
it was just phone calls from myself so far
to be honest, I don't really want to be phoning the police again, he will only be gone by the time they turn up I imagine
this is just a guess to who ever asked but to get in the sheltered accommodation I think the nurse that used to visit him about his dodgy foot possibly got involved, or maybe one of the two visitors he used to get, one semi regular, other not so often, another neighbour actually knows the semi regular visitor so going to enquire with him I think as well
I guess ageuk should be my next stop though, or maybe help the aged is my local one I think, remember volunteering with them years ago
thanks for the suggestions so far
Ring the local authority social services assessment team (or intake, or front of house or whatever they're called this week) and notify them of the vulnerable adult.
Under Section 47 NHS and Community Care Act the duty to assess (or re-assess need) is triggered by the knowledge of the vulnerable adult on the patch, not by any kind of formal referral.
paul
Under Section 47 NHS and Community Care Act the duty to assess (or re-assess need) is triggered by the knowledge of the vulnerable adult on the patch, not by any kind of formal referral.
paul
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