Coilovers pedders or bc racing
Discussion
So fairly new to the monaro world, I have had a fair few cars and know/drive alot of others with BC coilovers
A couple are similar size cars, 2 x E39 M5. I rate the BC suspension, it has good ride quality when you tone down the dampers plus the seem to last aswell, the build quality is great and puts to shame a lot of higher prices units in my experience. However I have noticed most monaro in the UK people run pedders, any reason against the BC?
A lot of US GTO owners run BC!
At the moment I can get the BC at around £100 cheaper but I would like to know your thoughts for a comparison!
A couple are similar size cars, 2 x E39 M5. I rate the BC suspension, it has good ride quality when you tone down the dampers plus the seem to last aswell, the build quality is great and puts to shame a lot of higher prices units in my experience. However I have noticed most monaro in the UK people run pedders, any reason against the BC?
A lot of US GTO owners run BC!
At the moment I can get the BC at around £100 cheaper but I would like to know your thoughts for a comparison!
I wouldn't use the fact that plenty of Americans use them be a deciding factor.
If the springs on the BCs are too stiff or soft for the Monaro, then a set of springs will take quite a slice from the money you have saved. The Pedders are known to work here. Honestly, I think the main reason why Pedders are used in the UK most, is because Monkfish sell them. They're also a KW agent, but will recommend Pedders over KWs on the Monaro as they say that the spring rate on the KWs is too hard.
Edited to take account of other info posted later.
If the springs on the BCs are too stiff or soft for the Monaro, then a set of springs will take quite a slice from the money you have saved. The Pedders are known to work here. Honestly, I think the main reason why Pedders are used in the UK most, is because Monkfish sell them. They're also a KW agent, but will recommend Pedders over KWs on the Monaro as they say that the spring rate on the KWs is too hard.
Edited to take account of other info posted later.
Edited by ARAF on Sunday 7th June 10:15
Not the same car but some warning on BC and their 'service' experience in the UK.
I have an issue where the rear spring supplied are simply too soft and as a result the swing arm bottoms out. They are simply denying there is an issue and that they have never heard of any issue on this car (BMW Z3). The thing is a fellow Z3 owner contacted them a few weeks ago with the same issue and they were not helpful but made aware of the issue. He solved it by fitting a set of their 8kg springs instead of the 6kg springs they supply with the kit (which are also longer and this does not give the same lowering).
My issue is the outright denial of hearing about any issues when I know they have been informed. This is not the attitude I'd expect from any company selling suspension.
Apart from this issue the suspension kit is good, I'm very happy so far but will not buy again from BC until they have better UK service. I'd hate to think how helpful they'd be if I have a more serious issue or warranty claim.
I have an issue where the rear spring supplied are simply too soft and as a result the swing arm bottoms out. They are simply denying there is an issue and that they have never heard of any issue on this car (BMW Z3). The thing is a fellow Z3 owner contacted them a few weeks ago with the same issue and they were not helpful but made aware of the issue. He solved it by fitting a set of their 8kg springs instead of the 6kg springs they supply with the kit (which are also longer and this does not give the same lowering).
My issue is the outright denial of hearing about any issues when I know they have been informed. This is not the attitude I'd expect from any company selling suspension.
Apart from this issue the suspension kit is good, I'm very happy so far but will not buy again from BC until they have better UK service. I'd hate to think how helpful they'd be if I have a more serious issue or warranty claim.
Dino D said:
Not the same car but some warning on BC and their 'service' experience in the UK.
I have an issue where the rear spring supplied are simply too soft and as a result the swing arm bottoms out. They are simply denying there is an issue and that they have never heard of any issue on this car (BMW Z3). The thing is a fellow Z3 owner contacted them a few weeks ago with the same issue and they were not helpful but made aware of the issue. He solved it by fitting a set of their 8kg springs instead of the 6kg springs they supply with the kit (which are also longer and this does not give the same lowering).
My issue is the outright denial of hearing about any issues when I know they have been informed. This is not the attitude I'd expect from any company selling suspension.
Apart from this issue the suspension kit is good, I'm very happy so far but will not buy again from BC until they have better UK service. I'd hate to think how helpful they'd be if I have a more serious issue or warranty claim.
On the flip side, used dozens of sets of BC's on Subarus and a handful of other cars. There were some small issues with regards the top plates on some Suabrus and BC' couldnt have been more helpful, sending replacements FOC without even asking for the old parts back.I have an issue where the rear spring supplied are simply too soft and as a result the swing arm bottoms out. They are simply denying there is an issue and that they have never heard of any issue on this car (BMW Z3). The thing is a fellow Z3 owner contacted them a few weeks ago with the same issue and they were not helpful but made aware of the issue. He solved it by fitting a set of their 8kg springs instead of the 6kg springs they supply with the kit (which are also longer and this does not give the same lowering).
My issue is the outright denial of hearing about any issues when I know they have been informed. This is not the attitude I'd expect from any company selling suspension.
Apart from this issue the suspension kit is good, I'm very happy so far but will not buy again from BC until they have better UK service. I'd hate to think how helpful they'd be if I have a more serious issue or warranty claim.
Service was nothing short of excellent and for the money their stuff really is very good quality compared to some stuff out there.
Tattooboy said:
Isn't 007 running HSD coil overs ??
I can def recommend Pedders Supercar Coilovers for the Monaro, it's a great setup, Monk Fish fitted mine.
I can def recommend Pedders Supercar Coilovers for the Monaro, it's a great setup, Monk Fish fitted mine.
HSDs, IMHO stick with what is known to work on the Monaros. Saying that, after 3 diffrent sets of springs the HSDs work great for me, but not everyones cup of tea 
KMud said:
Can anyone who has gone from non-knackered OE/pedders suspension to coilovers comment? Obviously coilovers will feel good if your dampers are already buggered, but I'm wondering how tangible the difference is otherwise...obviously adjustability and weight-saving are nice.
You might also want to ask who adjusts their suspension before a drive - depending on whether they're going to be on motorway, country road, or track. 
ARAF said:
You might also want to ask who adjusts their suspension before a drive - depending on whether they're going to be on motorway, country road, or track.
Exactly, I would rather not overly fiddle (do enough of that with the ECU!). I would anticipate dialling it in and likely never touching it again...but then I don't go to the track.KMud said:
ARAF said:
You might also want to ask who adjusts their suspension before a drive - depending on whether they're going to be on motorway, country road, or track.
Exactly, I would rather not overly fiddle (do enough of that with the ECU!). I would anticipate dialling it in and likely never touching it again...but then I don't go to the track.I went off coilovers, a few years ago, after having three sets on different cars that gave nothing but trouble. Squeeking and rattling in the morning before they had warmed up properly, noisy springs binding, and shocks blowing prematurely - none of these were Pedders, but it does help you appreciate what is built into a conventional setup. Coilovers were made for the track, and expect to be rebuilt or replaced every couple of years. They're for giving you an extra tenth on the same bit of tarmac lap after lap, and won't do anything when your in a clogged road network.
My advise is to go for quality shock absorbers, and springs - and don't overlook standard components if they are quality.
KMud said:
Can anyone who has gone from non-knackered OE/pedders suspension to coilovers comment? Obviously coilovers will feel good if your dampers are already buggered, but I'm wondering how tangible the difference is otherwise...obviously adjustability and weight-saving are nice.
love my coilovers much better than the standard only 18 month old 6000miles standard ones. Have changed the settings on mine loads of times no track days and run them low and raked
VinceM said:
Well for a daily driver I've got pedders shocks with polybush kits from mf and am happy with it. Perfect all round really although no track work....TR excepted...and no plans for track work either. Couldn't justify the cost and loss in ride quality with coilovers
no lose in ride quality, KMud said:
Can anyone who has gone from non-knackered OE/pedders suspension to coilovers comment? Obviously coilovers will feel good if your dampers are already buggered, but I'm wondering how tangible the difference is otherwise...obviously adjustability and weight-saving are nice.
I went from standard non knackered VXR setup to pedders coilovers, the ride quality is very good, yes they are firmer but not to the point that you are looking out for any bump to avoid, i would highly recommend themEdited by Granby on Sunday 7th June 18:52
I have HSD coilovers on mine and have done for the last 4 years,very happy with them now but due to the fact different spring rates to what was supplied,i think like 007 had a lot of messing around, to be honest i only run coilovers due to the fact you can set the height of the car to exactly how you want, with lowering springs you are tied by the manufacturer, if i was to do again would go for the pedders set up simply because lots of research and devolopment focused purely for the monaro,and also from what people have said fit and forget,in my view also you have to like a stiff ride when going for coilovers something that has always suited me, best if you can get a ride in different set ups as suspension is a very personal thing.
I would say that there are people in this thread who are talking about pedders shocks and spring package and others about the coilovers. Which are very different options! Coilovers will be a lot firmer, which is fine if thats what you want.
When comparing to another well known brand of coilovers, do consider that the Pedders ones come with £100 worth of new top mounts and bearings. Which you will almost certainly need.
When comparing to another well known brand of coilovers, do consider that the Pedders ones come with £100 worth of new top mounts and bearings. Which you will almost certainly need.
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