4.2 Adaptives/TPS/Rollover valve
4.2 Adaptives/TPS/Rollover valve
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Jhonno

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6,430 posts

164 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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Now I've got my Cerb back up and running, it is throwing AFR errors on both banks after a brief blast.. Which it wasn't before I changed the plugs/leads/coilpacks/fuel filter.

I've got it hooked up to Aide's excellent RS-AJP app and it is showing high adaptives on part/no throttle.. Bank 1 is fine at idle, 2 is running around 25. However as soon as you apply some throttle they both drop to around 0. Both TPS's are in sync, giving almost identical readings throughout the travel. Although they never give 100%, both topping out at 94.7% (is this an issue?).

Seems to be a part throttle issue.. Where to start looking? Or is it just a case of setup or give it more of a run? It is popping and banging even more than usual atm, but running seemingly better than it ever has..

As an addition, after a run, I can hear a gurgling from the filler area (from inside), release the cap and it seems to be creating a greater vacuum in the tank than it was. Rollover valve?

CerbWill

714 posts

141 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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Bank 2 is flowing more air than expected for the TP reading. Assuming this is due to the set-up rather than air leaks I'd suggest the folllowing.

The positive adaptive shows the ECU is adding more fuel to the mix over and above the base map to maintain the correct AFR. Adjust the TP so it shows a higher reading and the adaptive value should drop. To maintain equal TP readings and keep the banks balanced the idle stop will then need adjusting to shut the throttles on Bank 2, and the link rod adjusting so that Bank 1's position remains as it was originally.

Jhonno

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6,430 posts

164 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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Makes sense..

I am talking a friend's daughter to prom in it on the 19th, so as it generally running ok atm, I think I'll fiddle with it after having never done it before!

Jhonno

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164 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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Does it matter if you don't get 100% reading from the TPS'? Does the ECU compensate somehow?

LincsCerb

128 posts

143 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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94.7% is full throttle the pots don't get to 100%, no idea why.

Jhonno

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6,430 posts

164 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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LincsCerb said:
94.7% is full throttle the pots don't get to 100%, no idea why.
Ah.. Well that is ok then!

Jhonno

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6,430 posts

164 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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Well.. After chatting to Aide, he pointed out the obvious I was missing.. My TPS' were set to 15% at idle, not the prescribed 18%.. Reset them and boom.. Adaptives mainly 0 or -ve. Although... It does still run lean on overrun, pininging the AFR on bank 2! Definitely gained me a few horses and torques as well, feels quite feisty now.