S3 - Central locking and indicator stalk

[paul.deitch]

The existing very old central locking unit works (Siemens and no circuit diagrams available) but seems to drain the battery in a week so it needs to be replaced. Any recommendations for replacements?

Also the self cancelling part of the indicators has lost the "self" function... Before I take it all apart is it repairable or do I need to buy one?

Apart from that I am still very happy with it after 13 years but really miss power steering.

[White S3]

I hear that Maplins (http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/central-door-locking-system-yd77j) is an easy fit. One of the Hants 3000S installed it relatively quickly - works on a key rather than a fob but you can get the fob version too. Might try it myself seeing that they are on special.

Self cancelling indicator - same problem here, I have lived with it for +5yrs now but my annual mileage is low and replacements do not seem to be easily found in the UK but I might have been looking in the wrong places.

[glenrobbo]

An S with self-cancelling indicators is a very rare beast indeed.
That's why on the S1 & S2, TVR positioned the green indicator warning light completely out of the driver's line of sight, so he wouldn't be distracted by the constant flashing for mile after mile after mile......

[Griffinr]

paul.deitch said:

The existing very old central locking unit works (Siemens and no circuit diagrams available) but seems to drain the battery in a week so it needs to be replaced. Any recommendations for replacements?

Also the self cancelling part of the indicators has lost the "self" function... Before I take it all apart is it repairable or do I need to buy one?

Apart from that I am still very happy with it after 13 years but really miss power steering.

Replaced mine with an alarm system which also operates the central locking actuators and has a spare output which I used for a remote boot opener. It was about £25 off EBay with 2 remotes but still works fine after 5 years. (I really shouldn't have added that last bit)

[mk1fan]

glenrobbo said:

An S with self-cancelling indicators is a very rare beast indeed.

Agree with that.

Did you [the OP] have it then?

[paul.deitch]

Oh yes, it cancelled successfully all the time I have had it until a couple of days ago. The stalk has a square form. I had no idea I bought the deluxe version of the car. I guess I will have to take it apart and find the part number.

I'm off to Ebay to find a central locking system then.

[Griffinr]

paul.deitch said:

Oh yes, it cancelled successfully all the time I have had it until a couple of days ago. The stalk has a square form. I had no idea I bought the deluxe version of the car. I guess I will have to take it apart and find the part number.

I can't quite remember the exact arrangement but the self cancel is operated by a cam on the steering column under the steering wheel. I seem to recall that it is plastic and may be worn, broken or out of position.

[paul.deitch]

This the part I need and is for sale but looks a state so I will search elsewhere http://www.ebay.ie/itm/ford-sierra-ndicator-stalk-...

[paul.deitch]

Griffinr said:

paul.deitch said:

Oh yes, it cancelled successfully all the time I have had it until a couple of days ago. The stalk has a square form. I had no idea I bought the deluxe version of the car. I guess I will have to take it apart and find the part number.

I can't quite remember the exact arrangement but the self cancel is operated by a cam on the steering column under the steering wheel. I seem to recall that it is plastic and may be worn, broken or out of position.

Correct and unfortunately it is definitely not repairable.

[v8s4me]

Griffinr said:

...I can't quite remember the exact arrangement but the self cancel is operated by a cam on the steering column under the steering wheel. I seem to recall that it is plastic and may be worn, broken or out of position.

Correct. It is from a Sierra IIRC and might still be available via a Ford main dealer. I got on that way 3 or 4 years ago.

[paul.deitch]

Hmmmm... a new one is 214 Euros. Not sure that I want the self cancelling function that much to be honest.

[v8s4me]

The little plastic cam is/was available separately for a lot less than that...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Sierra-RS-Cosworth-...

[paul.deitch]

Now that looks interesting but how do you fit it? Steering wheel off/shaft out?

[v8s4me]

Just lift off the steering wheel and pull off the old one, push on new one. Easy. Still won't self cancel though

[glenrobbo]

v8s4me said:

Just lift off the steering wheel and pull off the old one, push on new one. Easy. Still won't self cancel though

We noticed that Joe!

Alan & I kept on expecting you to turn off somewhere, but when you eventually did, it took us completely by surprise!

ETA I have to admit, it's just the same for anyone following me & Austin

Edited by glenrobbo on Thursday 11th June 12:51

[S2Mike]

Hi, postage may be Expensive but, in my now non TVR garage I have a pair of central locking motors and an indicator stalk assembly that I kept as spares, off an S2 from 1990, hopefully these will be a correct fit. Someone on here may be able to confirm this. I found that if the doors didn't quite shut and latch fully the motors could not push the lock across fully and so kept whirring, thereby draining the battery, so I took them off. The indicator stalk I bought as a second hand replacement but then the original decided to repair itself. £20 plus postage and they are yours .

[paul.deitch]

S2Mike said:

Hi, postage may be Expensive but, in my now non TVR garage I have a pair of central locking motors and an indicator stalk assembly that I kept as spares, off an S2 from 1990, hopefully these will be a correct fit. Someone on here may be able to confirm this. I found that if the doors didn't quite shut and latch fully the motors could not push the lock across fully and so kept whirring, thereby draining the battery, so I took them off. The indicator stalk I bought as a second hand replacement but then the original decided to repair itself. £20 plus postage and they are yours .

Hey thanks for the offer.
The stalk part number on mine is 83bg13b302ba
9119 10
g48 190
Do you know if your unit cancels?
The lock motors I have work great. It is just the power consumption of the main unit which bothers me so I don't need the motors, but thanks anyway.

[S2Mike]

I will check the part number and let you know, and yes it does cancel, as did the original the problem was main dip headlamp and flash. Yes it is a top of the range model that I once owned. ! Even the horn worked !!!

[S2Mike]

Just checked my Indicator stalk, 81AG 13B 302 AA. So not sure if it will work for you. Hope fully someone on here can confirm !