Sexism on PH

[anonymous-user]

I can't be the only one who's sick of it-surely? I'm a guy and it just gets wearing reading it time after time.

The way that during the leader's debate some posters couldn't help but post about how much 'bleating' Leanne Wood would do on all fours, or mention of 'the mental' all the fking time. The fact that as soon as anyone posts a thread about divorce 'snakes with tits' or some other demeaning phrase is used pretty much without fail.

Or in any thread about rape/sexual assault there is always a large degree of victim blaming, in any thread where there is a feminism issue it is always 'feminazi' and lord help them if they don't look perfect or their opinion on feminism/body image is worth jack st to many.

I'm expecting heaps of abuse for this but really felt the need to vent about it.

[GT03ROB]

cookie118 said:

I can't be the only one who's sick of it-surely? I'm a guy and it just gets wearing reading it time after time.

The way that during the leader's debate some posters couldn't help but post about how much 'bleating' Leanne Wood would do on all fours, or mention of 'the mental' all the fking time. The fact that as soon as anyone posts a thread about divorce 'snakes with tits' or some other demeaning phrase is used pretty much without fail.

Or in any thread about rape/sexual assault there is always a large degree of victim blaming, in any thread where there is a feminism issue it is always 'feminazi' and lord help them if they don't look perfect or their opinion on feminism/body image is worth jack st to many.

I'm expecting heaps of abuse for this but really felt the need to vent about it.

This place is the male equivalent of Mumsnet didn't you know. On Mumsnet the 1st response to any question is he's being emotionally abusive....LTB.

If you want balanced viewpoints this is not the place

[StuntmanMike]

O.P the trick is not to take any of it seriously and avoid those bitter bile infested relationship threads.

[Martin4x4]

[HewManHeMan]

It's rife. The issue is it's ignorance as to what sexism actually is... often dismissed as PC-gone-mad.

[Gargamel]

I am with you OP. It is just tedious. I mean we should be able to appreciate a pretty lady, without openly posting that "I'd ruin that" Or some such insight.

[Studio117]

Gargamel said:

I am with you OP. It is just tedious. I mean we should be able to appreciate a pretty lady, without openly posting that "I'd ruin that" Or some such insight.

It's hideously cringeworthy. Middle aged men virtually masturbating over flemke and then any picture of a women posted.

[Tribal Chestnut]

Studio117 said:

Gargamel said:

I am with you OP. It is just tedious. I mean we should be able to appreciate a pretty lady, without openly posting that "I'd ruin that" Or some such insight.

It's hideously cringeworthy. Middle aged men virtually masturbating over flemke and then any picture of a women posted.

Is this 'flemke' a bit of a cutie then? Pic?

Pictures are always nice, but most of the comments are a little tedious, as with much of PH, although it's nothing that can't be ignored.

[Captain Muppet]

I wrote a long rambling post, then deleted it because predicting offence in the head of someone else is impossible.

Just avoid obviously offensive sexism, like patting their bottom and asking for a cup of tea (although I just tried it with the girl who lives in my house and she liked it) and leave the grey areas (like while a women's world cup is clearly sexist it seems to be regarded as positive) well alone.

[Leptons]

[andy-xr]

Gargamel said:

I am with you OP. It is just tedious. I mean we should be able to appreciate a pretty lady, without openly posting that "I'd ruin that" Or some such insight.

I'm not sure if you're wording it in that way on purpose, but "we should be able to appreciate a pretty lady" regardless of whatever you say next, still puts you in the same camp as the ones 'who'd ruin that'

http://everydayfeminism.com/2013/01/male-sexual-en...

[grumbledoak]

cookie118 said:

I'm expecting a chorus of "Bravo!"s over at Sanctimonious dhead Central for this but really felt the need to vent about it.

EFA.

So don't read it. Or just don't read the threads that are obviously going to go that way. It's not difficult.

[The Vambo]

OP doesn't know the difference between criticism and sexism.

[The Vambo]

andy-xr said:

I'm not sure if you're wording it in that way on purpose, but "we should be able to appreciate a pretty lady" regardless of whatever you say next, still puts you in the same camp as the ones 'who'd ruin that'

http://everydayfeminism.com/2013/01/male-sexual-en...

Is the madness in that link being used as reference material here?

[andy-xr]

The Vambo said:

Is the madness in that link being used as reference material here?

Do you understand the argument? Or would you discredit it without thinking what it's saying?

article said:

Guys who take sexual entitlement to the extreme believe that women owe them sexual favors in exchange for attention, aggressiveness, or just plain existing.........


men acting as if women should be instantly flattered by a compliment, even one as degrading and pointless as “nice ass.”

if you’re only acting like a decent human being to get something in return (sex in this situation), you’re just pretending to be a decent person to get what you want.

Edited by andy-xr on Saturday 13th June 12:11

[vixen1700]

StuntmanMike said:

O.P the trick is not to take any of it seriously and avoid those bitter bile infested relationship threads.

This really. There is plenty to read on here that doesn't have any kind of bitterness/I'd do her/sexism.

[WinstonWolf]

cookie118 said:

I can't be the only one who's sick of it-surely? I'm a guy and it just gets wearing reading it time after time.

The way that during the leader's debate some posters couldn't help but post about how much 'bleating' Leanne Wood would do on all fours, or mention of 'the mental' all the fking time. The fact that as soon as anyone posts a thread about divorce 'snakes with tits' or some other demeaning phrase is used pretty much without fail.

Or in any thread about rape/sexual assault there is always a large degree of victim blaming, in any thread where there is a feminism issue it is always 'feminazi' and lord help them if they don't look perfect or their opinion on feminism/body image is worth jack st to many.

I'm expecting heaps of abuse for this but really felt the need to vent about it.

Go look at Mumsnet, the sexism is far worse there.

[PoleDriver]

WinstonWolf said:

Go look at Mumsnet, the sexism is far worse there.

And they show tits!

[NRS]

andy-xr said:

The Vambo said:

Is the madness in that link being used as reference material here?

Do you understand the argument? Or would you discredit it without thinking what it's saying?

article said:

Guys who take sexual entitlement to the extreme believe that women owe them sexual favors in exchange for attention, aggressiveness, or just plain existing.........


men acting as if women should be instantly flattered by a compliment, even one as degrading and pointless as “nice ass.”

if you’re only acting like a decent human being to get something in return (sex in this situation), you’re just pretending to be a decent person to get what you want.

Edited by andy-xr on Saturday 13th June 12:11

You're the one reading "we should be able to appreciate a pretty lady" as meaning the people should be able to get sex because they're being nice. It doesn't have to mean that at all (although it can).

I do agree there is lots of sexism on PH (in the same way there is on Mumsnet), but often things just go too far. Look at the scientist who said it wasn't good for guys and girls to work together in science. It was taken as sexism against women, but it was just as bad in him effectively saying males can't control themselves. And if you actually looked at the quote it was just saying people fall in love and it messes the science up (he mentioned both sides falling in love), nothing to do with one or the other sex being "worse". Yes, there was the crying bit, but do girls cry more? I would say in my experience yes (but not for all girls obviously), in the same way guys are more likely to commit suicide or crash badly just after passing their test.

However it does get annoying with the snakes with tits etc - a lot is down to the person choosing the wrong person and it's just the person, rather than all women being like that.

[DuncanM]

Captain Muppet said:

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(like while a women's world cup is clearly sexist it seems to be regarded as positive)

Clearly sexist?