Mortgage Loan and Total Amount Repayable
Mortgage Loan and Total Amount Repayable
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anonymous-user

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84 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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MajorProblem

4,700 posts

194 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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That's if the rate stays low, might be a bit higher if the rate is 15%.


MajorProblem

4,700 posts

194 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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Also if it's repayment mortgage,

30yrs £1000

25yrs £1150

20yrs £1400


Jobbo

13,872 posts

294 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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The total amount payable will be based on 2 years at 1.6% then 28 years at whatever the lender's current standard variable rate is. So it's theoretical; if rates go up it'll be a lot more, but if you can keep remortgaging to 1.6% each time your introductory rate expires, it'll be less.

I suspect you don't have 30yrs' remaining term on your current mortgage so that'll be part of the reason for the cheaper monthlies; beware that extending the term doesn't save you much each month but it does cost a fair bit more in total over the full term.

MajorProblem

4,700 posts

194 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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If the rate averaged 6% over the next 30yrs then you'd pay back a total of around £600k

MajorProblem

4,700 posts

194 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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Poor people don't get £285k mortgages.

BoRED S2upid

21,071 posts

270 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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Horrible figure that I try not to look at it too often. All that money and the banks still needed bailing out! This is why overpaying even by a small amount each month has such a big effect.

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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anonymous said:
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Your total figure is accounting for 28 years on Accord's SVR of 5.79% which is pretty much the highest in the industry.....

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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anonymous said:
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Sorry, I thought you were going with Accord because of this link;

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Their SVR is 5.79%..............

rossmc88

490 posts

190 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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The total amount repayable is a joke

I'd think fair enough if you were actually borrowing someone else's money, but the money doesn't even exist until you take the mortgage out

Magic919

14,557 posts

231 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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What extra money? 285k at 4% over 30 years isn't far short of half a million.

hadenough!

3,785 posts

290 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Stitching yourself up with a mortgage till you mid 60s? Blimey!

westberks

1,444 posts

165 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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That figure also includes the capital that you are repaying on top of the interest for 30 years. Adjust the term to 20 and it drops significantly.

The overall numbers on an offer has little relevance to most as nobody stays with the same deal for the duration, but these are there to give you a rough idea.

Not sure why you'd take it over 30 years as that just plays into the lenders hands and saddles you with debt for ever. Try and overpay slightly to vshorten the term.

gregf40

1,114 posts

146 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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anonymous said:
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'The rich' don't leave their money in bank accounts to be lent out by banks.

MajorProblem

4,700 posts

194 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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westberks said:
That figure also includes the capital that you are repaying on top of the interest for 30 years. Adjust the term to 20 and it drops significantly.

The overall numbers on an offer has little relevance to most as nobody stays with the same deal for the duration, but these are there to give you a rough idea.

Not sure why you'd take it over 30 years as that just plays into the lenders hands and saddles you with debt for ever. Try and overpay slightly to shorten the term.
30yrs average of 4% - £205k interest

Overpay by £125 a month and save 4.5 years and £35k in interest

Overpay by £250 a month and knock off nearly 8yrs and £60k in interest

Overpay by £500 a month and knock off 12yrs and £90k in interest

A friend of mine bought a house at the same time as me (1st houses) I took my mortgage over 25yrs and overpaid, he took 45yrs as to get the payments as cheap as poss but the difference we paid wasn't that much, I'll let you guess who's still in their 1st house and who's in their dream house.

gregf40

1,114 posts

146 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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MajorProblem said:
30yrs average of 4% - £205k interest

Overpay by £125 a month and save 4.5 years and £35k in interest

Overpay by £250 a month and knock off nearly 8yrs and £60k in interest

Overpay by £500 a month and knock off 12yrs and £90k in interest

A friend of mine bought a house at the same time as me (1st houses) I took my mortgage over 25yrs and overpaid, he took 45yrs as to get the payments as cheap as poss but the difference we paid wasn't that much, I'll let you guess who's still in their 1st house and who's in their dream house.
I used to have huge mortgages with the smallest repayments possible as I believed I could get much higher returns elsewhere than the rate on the mortgage.

If you try to make your repayments as low as possible and extend the term and just spend the 'extra' money instead of investing it then of course you will be worse off (financially) in the long run.

However, your friend may argue he had more fun spending the money and would rather be in his position than yours.

IMO overpaying a mortgage is over rated.

Shaoxter

4,613 posts

154 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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gregf40 said:
IMO overpaying a mortgage is over rated.
Especially so with rates as low as they are. There's even current accounts (Santander) which give you higher returns than your typical mortgage rate.

A few things people should read up on (bearing in mind 30 years is a loooong time):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_interest
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation