Whats the TV Licence fee for
Whats the TV Licence fee for
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cotty

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41,833 posts

307 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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I always thought that in some part the licence fee went to fund the BBC but reading the blurb on their site I am a bit confused.

www.tvlicensing.co.uk|

TV Licencing said:
Under the Communications Act 2003, you need a television licence to receive or record television programmes. This applies if they are received by a satellite, cable or land based transmitter. If you are watching any satellite service, controlled from within or outside the UK, you must have a television licence.

You may have been informed, in the past, that a television licence was not required if you received television program services from outside the United Kingdom. This was changed in the Communications Act 2003, and if you are using your TV to receive or record television programmes broadcast by satellite from outside the UK, you are now legally required to have a TV licence.



So even if the BBC did not exist and you only watched american programs via satelite you would still be required to pay.

I pay for the equipment and pay a subscription to sky, I can then turn the TV on and the picture will be there, what exactly does the Licence fee do is it just another tax ?????


einion yrth

19,575 posts

267 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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cotty said:
... what exactly does the Licence fee do is it just another tax ?????



Got it in one.

JonRB

79,299 posts

295 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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It is down to "the unique way the BBC is funded" that we have to pay it.

It is an anachronism, pure and simple. However, without it we wouldn't have the BBC. Take that how you will.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

293 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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Hmmm well I no longer have a TV because I have no wish to support the purchase of cardigans and sandals any longer. The license fee is self perpetuating nonsense, the fee pays for the enforcemetn of the payment. Then whats left (the majority) goes to pay for green sandalistlentilistthinkofthechildrenist propoganda to be produced. Programs no one wants to watch (apart from BBC Soaps watched only by the terminaly bewildered) being the main output plus some fairly naff radio that employs idiots like john Humphries and even gives air time to George Monbiot The employees of the BBC are of mostly Stalinist orientation with a deep sense of loss since Gorbachev relieved the world of the best piece of spin ever. (That the USSR was viable) This togerther with deep green rumblings make it a prime candidate for Vulcan bomber run practice on Thursday afternoons.

lunarscope

2,901 posts

265 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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cotty said:
I always thought that in some part the licence fee went to fund the BBC but reading the blurb on their site I am a bit confused.

www.tvlicensing.co.uk|


TV Licencing said:
Under the Communications Act 2003, you need a television licence to receive or record television programmes. This applies if they are received by a satellite, cable or land based transmitter. If you are watching any satellite service, controlled from within or outside the UK, you must have a television licence.

You may have been informed, in the past, that a television licence was not required if you received television program services from outside the United Kingdom. This was changed in the Communications Act 2003, and if you are using your TV to receive or record television programmes broadcast by satellite from outside the UK, you are now legally required to have a TV licence.




So even if the BBC did not exist and you only watched american programs via satelite you would still be required to pay.

I pay for the equipment and pay a subscription to sky, I can then turn the TV on and the picture will be there, what exactly does the Licence fee do is it just another tax ?????



What about over t'interweb ?
It's not broadcast and it's not television.

cotty

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41,833 posts

307 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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lunarscope said:

What about over t'interweb ?
It's not broadcast and it's not television.


TV Licencing said:

If you use a TV or any other device to receive or record TV programmes (for example, a VCR, set-top box, DVD recorder or PC with a broadcast card) - you need a TV Licence. You are required by law to have one.


stuffed

cazzer

8,883 posts

271 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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Thats different...thats a PC receiving broadcast signals.
Which they are not when on tinternet.

So you could just watch the BBC on the net...but why bother?

alex

9,978 posts

307 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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I would happily continue to pay the licence fee just for Radio 4.

Podie

46,647 posts

298 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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What's it good for..? Moaning about on PH...

c c

8,017 posts

262 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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Have a look and then decide: BBC-programs

Le TVR

3,097 posts

274 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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Tip for the future.

They are going to turn off all broadcast TV. In future it will be a broadband feed.
Your TV set will no longer have a tuner.

Guess how TV detector units operate.....

....by finding the signal from a TV tuner.

Everyone can then stop paying licences while they think up a new method of detection.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

293 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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If you have ever lived in another country you will understand what a paragon of broadcasting that the BBC are.

In the US, in an episode of Friends the viewer has to endure 5, yes, FIVE, advertising breaks.

Its enough to send you postal.

The BBC is a welcome respite from 'throw enough shit' advertising.

Added to which, the fairly insignificant license fee has financed some of the most amazing documentaries the world has seen. Christ, Attenbrough alone is worth £150 of my money.

I do wonder how many people are paying the £40 odd Sky license fee and complaining about the BBC one?

Got 15 channels of shit on the TV to choose from...

Eric Mc

124,754 posts

288 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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RADIO FOUR

b17nns

18,506 posts

270 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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I can see both sides.

I like the BBC, they produce some of the finest radio and television programmes on earth.

I also believe that if you choose to subscribe to sky and choose not to watch the BBC you should not be forced to pay the licence fee.

JagLover

45,863 posts

258 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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No one is disputing that the BBC produce some fine programmes.

The point is that people should have a choice whether or not ot subscibe or not and in the digital age it is possible to move to a subsciption basis.

The advantage is that once people can choose whether or not to subscibe, the BBC may stop it's current policy of Lentilist propaganda-in order not to lose subscibers.

MilnerR

8,273 posts

281 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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I got stung while at Uni in York. Answered the door to a very nice young lady who was from the TV licensing bods, she asked if i had a TV set in the house. I was about to say no but you could clearly hear the opening titles to Eastenders in the background So i fessed up and paid for a licence. A girl on my course was also rumbled, however she started ranting at the woman about what a waste of money the TV licnence is and how the BBC only ever show repeats and purulent shite anyway. She got taken to court over it!

Its the only time i've ever been read my right (you have the right to remain silent etc)...

b17nns

18,506 posts

270 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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MilnerR said:
Its the only time i've ever been read my right (you have the right to remain silent etc)...


the TV detector man can read you your rights?

busta

4,504 posts

256 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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The tv detector vans are unable to pic up signals from tft screens as they work on different a totally different principal to a normal tubed tv. However if you live in an area where most people pay TV licenses you will stand out like a sore thumb if you dont have one and they will probably still come knocking.

We have had about 5 different letters from the TV Licensing agency delivered to our house at uni however it is the universities policy not to let the TV Licensing bods into their properties, so basically they couldn't catch us if we didnt have a license.

I have a TV card in my PC so i can use it with my playstation however i have no aerial in my room at uni and the reception is awful anyway so i only use it at home where we do have a license. Hopefully that gives me firm enough ground to stand on if i ever do get in trouble.

Bernie

Plotloss

67,280 posts

293 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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Behave, when was the last time you saw a detector van?

Its a database lookup of TV licenses versus the land registry.

Little else.

JonRB

79,299 posts

295 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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Plotloss said:
Its a database lookup of TV licenses versus the land registry.
Indeed. You only have to look at the stories of the trouble some people have had in trying to convince the TV Licensing people that they don't have a TV.