BiB protecting the public faced charges himself..
BiB protecting the public faced charges himself..
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Streetcop

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5,907 posts

267 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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Just seen this on the BBC news;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4212629.stm

Another top decision by the CPS...

The police are paid to protect us; but the system is against even them..

Thankfully; the outcome was good, but could have been different.



>>> Edited by Streetcop on Thursday 27th January 15:11

thub

1,359 posts

313 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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Sounds like the PC's baton should have been used on the CPS pratt who even comtemplated this.

What next, charges for 'holding my arm too tight' when he nicked me?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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Lunacy.

Though I agree with the premise that the law should be equally extended whether you wear the uniform or not...

Cooperman

4,428 posts

279 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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Is that in Lincolnshire, the same county which prosecuted the guy delivering the transplant organ for speeding on the A1(M)?
Well, I never.
Total loss of plot.

WildCat

8,369 posts

272 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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Und even more staggering that they wasted money orosecuting this officer for arresting a violnet many when all yesterday's papers carried story that 75% of all real crime ist never caught und 99% of crimes never go to court (unless you are nice middle class person mit nice house und car)

I suppose prosecuting this office for daring to stop some thug killing a woman ist the 1% of so-called crime which comes to court.

By the way - what an indictment of the claim that a speed camera frees police to solve other crimes when their own figures reveal crime solving ist only 23& - an all time low!



Could this not have something to do mit criminalising the ordinary public over trivialities to make a fast buck und even prosecuting their own oficers for trying to save a life?



>> Edited by WildCat on Thursday 27th January 15:18

autismuk

1,529 posts

269 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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Streetcop said:
Just seen this on the BBC news;

<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4212629.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4212629.stm</a>

Another top decision by the CPS...

The police are paid to protect us; but the system is against even them..

Thankfully; the outcome was good, but could have been different.

>>> Edited by Streetcop on Thursday 27th January 15:11


This is utterly insane. They haven't (yet) charged the blokes who assaulted the restrained black guy ; but they pick on this copper who as far as I can see is just doing his job.

I feel in this situation sometimes. Stop it and be done for assault. Don't stop it and you'll be done for negligence. Farcking ridiculous !

autismuk

1,529 posts

269 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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WildCat said:
Und even more staggering that they wasted money orosecuting this officer for arresting a violnet many when all yesterday's papers carried story that 75% of all real crime ist never caught und 99% of crimes never go to court (unless you are nice middle class person mit nice house und car)

I suppose prosecuting this office for daring to stop some thug killing a woman ist the 1% of so-called crime which comes to court.

By the way - what an indictment of the claim that a speed camera frees police to solve other crimes when their own figures reveal crime solving ist only 23& - an all time low!



Could this not have something to do mit criminalising the ordinary public over trivialities to make a fast buck und even prosecuting their own oficers for trying to save a life?



>> Edited by WildCat on Thursday 27th January 15:18


It's worse than that. This will include administrative detections and other fudges.

Streetcop

Original Poster:

5,907 posts

267 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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autismuk said:

I feel in this situation sometimes. Stop it and be done for assault. Don't stop it and you'll be done for negligence. Farcking ridiculous !


That is about the level of it at times.............obviously the first option in the one 99% of the BiB choose...and take the risk...

wolves_wanderer

12,956 posts

266 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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CPS nutter said:
"We viewed the evidence and also had expert evidence on how the police should use the baton and the degree of force required in the circumstances of this arrest and on that basis the prosecution proceeded."


It must be nice to have the chance to sit down and have expert opinion on whether he hit the scumbag too hard or too often. I would hope the plod, when dealing with matters such as will take the opportunity to consult an "expert" before helping in the future

kevinday

13,833 posts

309 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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An absolute disgrace.. the CPS chief in the area should be made to resign immediately.

autismuk

1,529 posts

269 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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wolves_wanderer said:

CPS nutter said:
"We viewed the evidence and also had expert evidence on how the police should use the baton and the degree of force required in the circumstances of this arrest and on that basis the prosecution proceeded."


It must be nice to have the chance to sit down and have expert opinion on whether he hit the scumbag too hard or too often. I would hope the plod, when dealing with matters such as will take the opportunity to consult an "expert" before helping in the future


What you really really want is for the twats who hammered this poor cop to be in a "situation" being beaten up by a gang.

Morons: "Help ! Help !"

BiB: "Please wait whilst I complete forms 1470 thru 1522 and do a full risk and health and safety analysis. For the safety of myself I will conduct this at a distance of 300 yards".

Morons: "Ow ! Ow ! Stop hitting us !"

BiB: "Having consulsted the BiBs Book of Stupid Rules I have found that I am allowed to propel my baton at said yobbo at a baton-head speed of 13km/h and not have a force impact of more than 29Nm2. Anything harder is an assault."

Morons: "Ow Ow Ow"

BiB: "Unfortunately I have no idea how hard that is, so I am going to requisition some equipment from the laboratory to undertake a full study so as to assure I am breaking no law. I am informed this will take three weeks. Please wait till then"

BiB leaves.

cortinaman

3,230 posts

282 months

Friday 28th January 2005
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whatever happened to a simple 'sorry sarge,he fell down the stairs....repeatedly....whilst hitting himself randomly in the face with a cricket bat"....and then being backed-up by whichever other cops who may/may not have been around when he (ahem) fell?

bring back the jack regan school of policing!





Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

273 months

Friday 28th January 2005
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Ah you lot read the article.

CPS say " The same standards apply to Police as to any one else"

Political statement so that CPS can say that they are not a Police state and independant.

Not the first time a case has been taken to Court against Police with not a cat in hells chance of a conviction but to show Joe Public that Police are not exempt from things.

Cynical?.....Moi?

DVD

bumpkin

158 posts

284 months

Friday 28th January 2005
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the officer is an easy target isn't he. can't hide or be anonymous since he was the arresting officer. lots to loose, so instead of a commendation for doing a good job he gets grief.

one consolation i suppose is the gun bunny should enjoy his long stay in Colchester (one presumes that is where the military correctional facility is) i hear they are not quite so nice there.

autismuk

1,529 posts

269 months

Friday 28th January 2005
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Dwight VanDriver said:
Ah you lot read the article.

CPS say " The same standards apply to Police as to any one else"

Political statement so that CPS can say that they are not a Police state and independant.

Not the first time a case has been taken to Court against Police with not a cat in hells chance of a conviction but to show Joe Public that Police are not exempt from things.

Cynical?.....Moi?

DVD


But what's really bizarre is that this guy has been hammered and their are so many cases which are much much worse where basically nothing has been done.

This is standard bully-management tactics ; don't be rational, just now and then make a big example of some poor minion.

oldred

3,764 posts

267 months

Friday 28th January 2005
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This country is going to the dogs. Why do we employ people to do a task on our behalf and then give them hell when they carry it out? These liberal numpties are going to drown in the scum ridden cesspool of their own making, the problem is they are going to take all the decent folk down with them.

The soldier was unlucky not to have got away with a slap on the wrist and told not to be a naughty boy and wasn't it a shame that his Mummy brought him up so badly, but not to worry, we all know it wasn't his fault!

Sorry for the rant, but I'm getting fed up with reading and hearing things like this and I've had a cr@p ending to the week.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

299 months

Friday 28th January 2005
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I think this could be the end for the sandalists.

Lets face it when dogmatic moronic politicians have done stupid things in the past that the public did not want. (Like the destruction of the coal industry)

The clever bit was to arrange pay reviews and good increases for the police. Ie get them on their side.

The sandalista are not adopting that strategy. They are allowing police pay to fall behind and pissing them about with civil service crap.

Lets face it nobody joins the police force to tick and stamp forms thats for clerks.

Getting rid of traffic cops means manic driving is on the increase. (While speed is perfectly safe and speed limits are stupid, driving furiously is a killer, thats how even good racing drivers die).

Forcing PC crap on us and failing to recognise that the police and the army cannot and will never fall in line with this particular dogma is a definate chink in their armour.

Time to rid the world of the disease that is sandalism.

B 7 VP

633 posts

271 months

Friday 28th January 2005
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So presume the officer being not guilty , means that this was "Reasonable Force" as in Burglar in the house, so OK to beat the crap out of one--subject of course to which CPS you come under.