How hard would it be to install a start button ?
How hard would it be to install a start button ?
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ClassiChimi

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12,424 posts

178 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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When I was a small boy my dad owned an S type Jaguar, I always remember the start button, I was about 4 years of age and still think my dad was the coolest guy in the world because of that start button !!
I'd love a similar button fixed into my Dash, for no other reason other than to remember my long lost father, it's still as clear as day in my mind, I was the youngest of 5 kids so being the very early 70's my dad built me a seat on top of the centre consol,,,, so from as young as I could remember I sat up front, could see the road clearly, and I can remember the key gong in the centre of the dash (another cool thing) then my dad pressing this magic button which fired that glorious engine into life, it's what had me transfixed about cars as a boy,
Nothing flash, just a black button, can it be done easily enough with the Chimaera wiring etc. has anyone done it and has a wiring diagram. Cheers Alun

phillpot

17,510 posts

212 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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How hard? guess that depends how competent you are with electrics scratchchin


Fitted one of these in my Taimar. Comes with instructions, piece of cake wink



Something like this if you want to keep it simple?

Pull the white /red solenoid feed off the back of the ignition switch and connect to one terminal on push switch. Run an extra new wire from the terminal on ignition switch with white wire on it (live with ign. on) to the other side of push switch



Edited by phillpot on Wednesday 24th June 07:45

ClassiChimi

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12,424 posts

178 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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I love this place. Ask a childish question and you get a competent answer in no time, thanks Phil, I'm not a sparkie but even I could manage this one. I havnt had chance to read it yet but thanks for the Info. Alun

bsdnazz

762 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Ignition switches these days are really combined ignition/start switches with a spring return from the start position to the ignition position.
  • Insert your key and turn the key (ancillaries on) - one set of contact close.
  • Turn to turn on the ignition (ignition on) - a second set of contacts close.
  • Turn the key again to engage the starter motor (start engine) - a third set of contacts close.
  • Release the key when the engine is started - the key returns to the ignition position and the third set of contacts open.
(Not all cars have the ancillaries on position. It's the one that lets you listen to the radio with the ignition off.)

Basically all the start button does is provide a different way to close the third set of contacts and the opportunity to put another toy on the dash.

I like toys.

I have dim memories of Bristol Cars claiming to have invented the combined ignition and starter switch which replaced the separate ignition switch and start button. By combining the two fewer actions were required to start the engine!

brett84

1,291 posts

182 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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brett84

1,291 posts

182 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Mine still has key for ignition but the barrel was playing up a bit so I fitted the switch instead and the original immobiliser was st so I sorted that as well

J400GED

1,202 posts

266 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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brett84 said:
Cool.

ClassiChimi

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12,424 posts

178 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Well this is an easy mod,,thanks again Phil. I still like the idea of a very plain black button, no thrills just a dark reminder of what your about to unleash,,
Brett that's proper cool dude,,,
I was almost embarrassed to admit it but I'm not the only one then,,,, smile

Pupp

12,948 posts

301 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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A real cool starter button would have an interlock to prevent the solenoid firing when the engine is running and, like modern diesels, the logic to turn, fire and release all from a single momentary press...

Needless to say, mine doesn't manage this but it does extinguish its illumination when the engine catches (I just tapped into the oil light circuit)


rigga

8,806 posts

230 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Pupp said:
Needless to say, mine doesn't manage this but it does extinguish its illumination when the engine catches (I just tapped into the oil light circuit)
Like all good idea's, simple but effective.

zacherynuk

353 posts

162 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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http://www.chimaerapages.com/upgrades.html

^ very useful info

Personally, I thought about it too... but now I don't mind anymore - my others cars start with a button - all cars start with a button. Keys are now "classic" wink

Still hate the immobiliser though and the alarm.

ClassiChimi

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12,424 posts

178 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Pupp,, awesome dash, I don't want any writing just a plain button, subtle and unless you know you wouldn't have a clue what it does. I might get onto Jag heretage or so,, see what original stuff they offer,,, it's how the button presses that seems to be the thing I like,, it's probably mad but those old Jag toggles and buttons, they make you feel good when you operate them,, I'd like to feel that when firing the Tvr up, some sort of physcological issue I must have?
This is so easy to do it's going to be one of them jobs I really enjoy.


QBee

22,466 posts

173 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Found this at an auto jumble........as it is from my school days, I really want to install it for that retro feel. Two terminals on the back - do you think it would work with a bit of fettling?


ClassiChimi

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12,424 posts

178 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Is this your sence of humour again,,, if it is your bloody funny, if not then get it in there, hang on a bit,, What's that actually off ?

QBee

22,466 posts

173 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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A 1950s/60s bus, I think.

"Push once".....



.....to ring the bell to stop the bus

ClassiChimi

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12,424 posts

178 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Kin aider, aaaaarrr,you do make me chuckle, is that button forsale? Hahahah
It almost looks like something out of an aeroplane,,,,, mmm that's an Idea!!

Pinx

188 posts

149 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Its definately off an old bus ! smile

Pinx

188 posts

149 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Brett,
where did you get your start button from ? i think that really looks the part smile

ClassiChimi

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12,424 posts

178 months

Wednesday 15th July 2015
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phillpot said:
How hard? guess that depends how competent you are with electrics scratchchin


Fitted one of these in my Taimar. Comes with instructions, piece of cake wink



Something like this if you want to keep it simple?

Pull the white /red solenoid feed off the back of the ignition switch and connect to one terminal on push switch. Run an extra new wire from the terminal on ignition switch with white wire on it (live with ign. on) to the other side of push switch



Edited by phillpot on Wednesday 24th June 07:45
biglaugh I've ordered the second one,,,, oh it is fun to personalise your car a little,,,,
Thanks Phil even I could manage that wiring smile

bobfather

11,197 posts

284 months

Wednesday 15th July 2015
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zacherynuk said:
http://www.chimaerapages.com/upgrades.html

^ very useful info

Personally, I thought about it too... but now I don't mind anymore - my others cars start with a button - all cars start with a button. Keys are now "classic" wink

Still hate the immobiliser though and the alarm.
Haha, reproduced by kind permission of Bob Smith. TVRCC is taking a liberty there. Nice that they reference me but the TVRCC never asked my permission