Speed 6???
Speed 6???
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eezeegeezer

Original Poster:

70 posts

260 months

Sunday 30th January 2005
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Hi everyone,
I get my first tvr on Wednesday - cerb speed 6,1999, no upgrades (except stereo) 23000miles - 23k.
Been on this site for a few days and have learnt so much from reading your threads - but there doesn't seem to be a lot on the s6 - is there a reason for this? My only two prerequisites before I bought a cerb was that it was a s6 - because if I'm honest wanted more of the entry level cerb, have been advised they had better handling, more of the all rounder, can use it as an everyday car but with 350bhp it was still a beast!! the other one was that it had to be yellow - meant to be faster!!
Went into DreamMachines - who were excellent - better than any car dealers I have been to - but this does seem to be indicative of tvr dealers as a whole, saw the car, took it out, loved it, bought it!
http://dreammachines.org.uk.1.m6.net/display_vehicle.aspx?vehicle_id=111|[url]http://dreammachines.org.uk.1.m6.net/display_vehicle.aspx?vehicle_id=111
Its just kinda worryin' me that no-one really talks about the s6 - have I bought it for the right reasons? Should I have gone for the 4.2 or 4.5?

First post - sorry about editing!!!
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admiral

214 posts

295 months

Sunday 30th January 2005
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Firstly, congratulations!

Certainly more of the people on here have the V8s - I would guess V8 Cerbs have outsold SP6 Cerbs significantly over the Cerb's whole production run.

The AJP V8 and Speed Six are both fine engines, with quite different characters. Apart from a few of the well looked after and fettled V8s, your typical SP6 will produce just as many horses.

I have owned my SP6 from new and have never regretted the choice.

All you're lacking with the SP6 is the pub bragging rights of the extra 2 cylinders........

eezeegeezer

Original Poster:

70 posts

260 months

Sunday 30th January 2005
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Cheers my friend,
Just gettin' worried that there was a distinct lack of s6's on here - and being new to the fold as it were - thought there's something out there I don't know.
Cheers.

UpTheIron

4,058 posts

297 months

Sunday 30th January 2005
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Sean,

I suggest you take a look at the Tuscan forum if you want to know more about the S6 engine...but it might not make pleasant reading.

eezeegeezer

Original Poster:

70 posts

260 months

Sunday 30th January 2005
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No - it doesn't make great reading at all - 99 model firmly in the "problem bracket" as well - it has a fsh and no history of problems. Mmmmmmmmm.......

SXS 

2,068 posts

269 months

Sunday 30th January 2005
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eezeegeezer said:
No - it doesn't make great reading at all - 99 model firmly in the "problem bracket" as well - it has a fsh and no history of problems. Mmmmmmmmm.......


Good luck mate... I would have advised a 4.2/4.5 over a speed 6 personally... but if you have a warranty, then thats ok, drive her, enjoy her, and then sell her off before the warranty goes...

gbbird

5,197 posts

273 months

Sunday 30th January 2005
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Well done with the purchase sir . And I understand its yellow

kojak

4,547 posts

282 months

Sunday 30th January 2005
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Another bloody yellow one. Has Pauline been paying everyone to get one.

UKBoB

16,277 posts

294 months

Sunday 30th January 2005
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Sean, nice car! I was sitting in it the other day, admiring. Lovely halion midas(?), nice interior too Congrats mate!! Just a few more days and shes yours!

But dont for a minute let the others decieve you into believing the yellows arnt the fastest

Chances are, Im a customer of yours, as I also live in Eastbourne! What bars/clubs do you own?

And... I also bought a yellow Cerbera from Dream Machines - last week!! Obviously Im the cerb daddy around town though, coz I was here first and have the 4.5

We are going to have to hook up for a hoon! Nick, about next weekend...

ocean1

1,045 posts

289 months

Sunday 30th January 2005
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Quoted from EVO magazine 2004 "the knowlege" pages:

Cerbera S6: 4 and a half stars, + Accomplished and desireable; - not a great deal

Cerbera 4.2: 3 stars, + ferociously quick and stunning looks; - SPEED 6 IS BETTER!!!

I rest my case m'lord.

If you dont believe me, look it up.

Ocean1

TimW

3,848 posts

276 months

Sunday 30th January 2005
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ocean1 said:
Quoted from EVO magazine 2004 "the knowlege" pages:

Cerbera S6: 4 and a half stars, + Accomplished and desireable; - not a great deal

Cerbera 4.2: 3 stars, + ferociously quick and stunning looks; - SPEED 6 IS BETTER!!!

I rest my case m'lord.

If you dont believe me, look it up.

Ocean1




Im sure it is better car togeather, When its Working

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ocean1

1,045 posts

289 months

Sunday 30th January 2005
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Ho Ho, youve missed your vocation Timw, you should be on the stage with a razor wit like that.

eezeegeezer

Original Poster:

70 posts

260 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Cheers for the advice everyone!!
We all have to start somewhere - I'll just stick "L" plates on my t-shirt for a while!!
I just can't wait at the mo'
Definitely have to hook up with you Rob - and yes you're still the Daddy!!! (only for a couple more years tho' - then there'll be a new sheriff in town!!
I've just taken on Maxims on South St. - handover on 1st March - shame it hasn't got a car park - could have been a great place to have a south coast meet.
I might have the baby cerb of the family, just 'cos you lot have a couple more cylinders - size doesn't matter - so they keep telling my mate - Ahem!!
As for the cost of maintenance - just part of my cerb initiation I suppose - it'll make me get to know my car!

eezeegeezer

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70 posts

260 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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only two more days to go!!!!

J_S_G

6,177 posts

279 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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SXS said:

eezeegeezer said:
No - it doesn't make great reading at all - 99 model firmly in the "problem bracket" as well - it has a fsh and no history of problems. Mmmmmmmmm.......

Good luck mate... I would have advised a 4.2/4.5 over a speed 6 personally... but if you have a warranty, then thats ok, drive her, enjoy her, and then sell her off before the warranty goes...

Warranty isn't likely to cover the majority of S6 engine woes, with them mainly being "wear & tear" issues...

eezeegeezer

Original Poster:

70 posts

260 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Cheers JS
Its only done 23000 mls - so engine's well bedded in but not so much so for too much wear and tear, no history on the engine side either and from an excellent dealership - so I'm thinking this is gonna be a great car to start off my tvr relationship with.

yzf1070

814 posts

260 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Firstly well done on the purchase, like me, you are new to the TVR mark. I bought the Tuscan S also a speed 6 and was worried about the negative reports. However....read deep and read between the lines and you may come to same conclusion as I. This engine is in a very high state of tune and demands care and attention. It is imperative it is thoroughly warmed up before it is worked hard. Keep an eye on the oil temp, thats the important one, mine runs around 60-70 deg C this time of year when its properly warmed up. If your motor has done 23K with out problems its likely been well looked after. Treat it the same and it will give you some incredible enjoyment, of that I am sure......have fun.

joospeed

4,473 posts

307 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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ocean1 said:
Quoted from EVO magazine 2004 "the knowlege" pages:

Cerbera S6: 4 and a half stars, + Accomplished and desireable; - not a great deal

Cerbera 4.2: 3 stars, + ferociously quick and stunning looks; - SPEED 6 IS BETTER!!!

I rest my case m'lord.

If you dont believe me, look it up.

Ocean1


Unfortunately EVO don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to TVR ownership as they only have cars for a few days at a time - not long enough for anything really drastic to happen. Better to sick with the experiences of the long-term owners on here methinks.

In Evo's Tuscan buyers guide they even had me down as one of the specialists to contact .. go figure .. just a tiny amount of research (like actually talking to me!) would have told them I wouldn't want my name associated with any Tuscan / SP6 buyers guide anywhere!

Unfortunately the Tuscan's habit of breaking down is carried over into the brilliant Cerbera. When they stuck the SP6 into the Cerbie they ruined an excellent car it became a pain to work on (access to regular service items is much more difficult than the V8 version) and the attempt to create a *softer* TVR to appeal to merc and beemer drivers sadly backfired.

I suspect that when PW looks back on his time at TVR the Cerbera SP6 might be his worst moment.

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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joospeed said:

ocean1 said:
Quoted from EVO magazine 2004 "the knowlege" pages:

Cerbera S6: 4 and a half stars, + Accomplished and desireable; - not a great deal

Cerbera 4.2: 3 stars, + ferociously quick and stunning looks; - SPEED 6 IS BETTER!!!

I rest my case m'lord.

If you dont believe me, look it up.

Ocean1



Unfortunately EVO don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to TVR ownership as they only have cars for a few days at a time - not long enough for anything really drastic to happen. Better to sick with the experiences of the long-term owners on here methinks.

In Evo's Tuscan buyers guide they even had me down as one of the specialists to contact .. go figure .. just a tiny amount of research (like actually talking to me!) would have told them I wouldn't want my name associated with any Tuscan / SP6 buyers guide anywhere!

Unfortunately the Tuscan's habit of breaking down is carried over into the brilliant Cerbera. When they stuck the SP6 into the Cerbie they ruined an excellent car it became a pain to work on (access to regular service items is much more difficult than the V8 version) and the attempt to create a *softer* TVR to appeal to merc and beemer drivers sadly backfired.

I suspect that when PW looks back on his time at TVR the Cerbera SP6 might be his worst moment.


Stop beating around the bush there Jules and tell us what you really think

GCerbera

5,161 posts

280 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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joospeed said:
Unfortunately EVO don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to TVR ownership as they only have cars for a few days at a time - not long enough for anything really drastic to happen. Better to sick with the experiences of the long-term owners on here methinks.

In Evo's Tuscan buyers guide they even had me down as one of the specialists to contact .. go figure .. just a tiny amount of research (like actually talking to me!) would have told them I wouldn't want my name associated with any Tuscan / SP6 buyers guide anywhere!

Unfortunately the Tuscan's habit of breaking down is carried over into the brilliant Cerbera. When they stuck the SP6 into the Cerbie they ruined an excellent car it became a pain to work on (access to regular service items is much more difficult than the V8 version) and the attempt to create a *softer* TVR to appeal to merc and beemer drivers sadly backfired.

I suspect that when PW looks back on his time at TVR the Cerbera SP6 might be his worst moment.
Repeated just in case you missed it the first time ocean1

Seriously, it comes down to whatever you fancy at the end of the day.

The Speed Six can be mended should it go pop, so just have deeper pockets ready
than if you were to buy a V8....just in case..