Ebay spot: 4 ltr Engine, look at the price!!!!
Ebay spot: 4 ltr Engine, look at the price!!!!
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Chimaera520

Original Poster:

274 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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This seems VERY expensive!


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-TVR-400-GT-Ultra-Spe...

£7.5K

offering a 3 year unlimited mileage warranty too.

Ian.


Sardonicus

19,442 posts

250 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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I know what a bargain scratchchin 300hp @ 6k yeh I would love to see this 4.0 make that rolleyes if only I would have seen this 1st I wouldn't of bothered building my current engine whistle high comp heads really? they are bone stock 10 bolt faces so hows that been achieved? confused

900T-R

20,406 posts

286 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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300 @6,000 - erm, that's what my 4.3 with a similar 'spec sheet' makes - on ACT twin throttle plenum induction & exhaust manifolds w/decat, mapped ignition, non-standard injectors and and and...

Methinks the torque figure belonging to that hp and rpm may be a tad 'ambitious' for a four litre... hehe But then again, TVR said it'd make 275 @ 5,500 so what's a man to do when he wants to sell an 'upgraded' version wink

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Sardonicus said:
I know what a bargain scratchchin 300hp @ 6k yeh I would love to see this 4.0 make that rolleyes if only I would have seen this 1st I wouldn't of bothered building my current engine whistle high comp heads really? they are bone stock 10 bolt faces so hows that been achieved? confused
It can be done the mg V8 race boys used to get over 300 from 3.9 rovers, although admittedly well modified and running much higher rpm

Sardonicus

19,442 posts

250 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Graham said:
It can be done the mg V8 race boys used to get over 300 from 3.9 rovers, although admittedly well modified and running much higher rpm
Yes I know its possible wink but not from the linked motors spec whistle

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

178 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Who's the seller linked to, ?

Is there any dyno figures to substantiate the power claims,,,,

It does look pretty wink

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

178 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Who's the seller linked to, ?

Is there any dyno figures to substantiate the power claims,,,,

It does look pretty wink

Pupp

12,948 posts

301 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Think you'll find the seller has the necessary credentials to build a feisty motor

BoostedChim

542 posts

254 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Pupp said:
Think you'll find the seller has the necessary credentials to build a feisty motor
Who are they then? They list a lot of heads on ebay with varying stages of tune but reuse a lot of the pictures and description. Most of them claiming to come from a 450 Chimaera.

Chimaera520

Original Poster:

274 posts

257 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Still seems an alot of cash....be interesting to see what conditions would apply to the warranty....

drlloyd

145 posts

222 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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Bought these heads from the same seller the other week. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141693818995?_trksid=p20...
'Dave' insisted on no Paypal, only bank transfer - unfortunately I ended up learning a painful lesson, hope others can learn from my mistake!
Significant casting damage - from pre-ignition or engine destruction? There is also a hole in the intake port where it looks like somebody has been too adventurous with their porting.


drlloyd

145 posts

222 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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When I called 'Dave' for a refund I got told that these heads were for a rebuild?! When I told him that, although I can aluminium weld, I would definitely consider these to be beyond repair - he put the phone down on me! No Paypal payment means no refund through Ebay. frown



Hole in intake port...

drlloyd

145 posts

222 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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Both heads are damaged so I have bought a pair of scrap head castings for £360!! frown

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

208 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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drlloyd said:


Both heads are damaged so I have bought a pair of scrap head castings for £360!! frown
That's shocking Danny, sorry to hear your story, it's so easy to get had like this frown

Many thanks for sharing your experience though as it saves others from buying from this shyster, good tip about the PayPal protection too.

Dave.



carsy

3,019 posts

194 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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Lok at this clowns feedback. That should tell you everything you need to know. His feedback was even lower a few months ago and only sold 20 odd items.

Complete and utter con merchant. Take it you've reported him to eBay.

N7GTX

8,302 posts

172 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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Pupp said:
Think you'll find the seller has the necessary credentials to build a feisty motor
Ah, maybe not. Appalling service that just gives eBay a bad name.

Edited by N7GTX on Saturday 11th July 11:38

drlloyd

145 posts

222 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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carsy said:
Lok at this clowns feedback. That should tell you everything you need to know. His feedback was even lower a few months ago and only sold 20 odd items.

Complete and utter con merchant. Take it you've reported him to eBay.
Strangely I gave him negative feedback which appeared on his user ID for a few hours and then disappeared for no apparent reason - how does that work?! The eBay system does not allow you to file for a refund if you do not pay via Paypal. The only remaining course of action is to phone Ebay directly but slightly concerned that it could mean hours of my life for no gain. Hence the 'heads up' on here! I would feel better if I thought that it prevented one of you guys or girls making the same mistake. smile

TheProfessor

158 posts

174 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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I think you can complain to E-bay of you believe that the neg feedback was in any way "unfair"

He may have had your negative feedback removed as E-bay will have no record for the payment through Pay-Pal, hence he could have claimed you never collected/paid for the items and that he can therefore prove to E-bay that your feedback was in some way malicious.

Probably a stunt pulled on more than 1 occasion

Pupp

12,948 posts

301 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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Anyone who knows me would confirm I'd be the last to defend or condone rip-offs but a couple of points need making for some balance IMO

First, it's simply incorrect to say there's no redress if Ebay won't act; the County Court is there and entirely able to deal with small claims arising from cases like this. Would depend on what representations were made and relied on obviously, and the evidence that exists of these but well worth a punt if you think something wrong has occurred.

Secondly, the listing linked to makes it clear the items are 'as is' and need to be refurbed - whether that is actually realistically possible or not is a moot point clearly, but I'm not sure I would have ever have expected to pick up issue free heads of that claimed spec for the money that apparently changed hands... it's a cliché but caveat emptor does apply and the onus is on the buyer to ensure they know what they are buying when contemplating old parts, no?

Again, it's not for me to 'out' him but this guy has been around Rovers and RV8 building/tuning for many years and has built some stormers in that time. Does seem to have a large and seemingly inexhaustible barn 'though!

Chimp871

837 posts

146 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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But putting the phone down on someone doesn't speak well though. It would be poor if seller knew it was bad (he's built many engines right?) but knew they could off load it.

When goods are sold 'as-is' you've legally got little redress, your only comeback would be 'as described' statement, i don't know if it's worth chasing.

Lesson is don't bid before you see it.