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moreymach

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1,029 posts

295 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005050234,00.html


not thewhole story here.. but apparently alongthe lines of The Sun setting up a fake doughnut stall outside a nick and then photographed a copper driving off eating one and of course 'not in proper control of the vehicle' ..

ca092003

797 posts

266 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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moreymach said:
www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005050234,00.html


not thewhole story here.. but apparently alongthe lines of The Sun setting up a fake doughnut stall outside a nick and then photographed a copper driving off eating one and of course 'not in proper control of the vehicle' ..


Silly boy (or girl).

minimax

11,985 posts

285 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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moreymach said:
www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005050234,00.html


not thewhole story here.. but apparently alongthe lines of The Sun setting up a fake doughnut stall outside a nick and then photographed a copper driving off eating one and of course 'not in proper control of the vehicle' ..


love it! I love the way the sun turns out moments of inspired genius like this! almost makes me forgive it for the utter crap it puts out most other days...

it does make a mockery of the system though, I mean - I assume the force will now throw the book at the offending copper, but somehow I bet they won't! I can see why after all, bubt in the interests of fairness, shirley they would? anyone want to open a book in it?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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They MUST throw the book at the officer concerned or face widespread ridicule by the public.... I suspect it will be the latter.

I bet that sting didn't cost £10,000 either

Streetcop

5,907 posts

267 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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perhaps if they do...the BiB might have take it on the chin and pay £30..instead of dragging the process out and costing the taxpayer £10,000 !

turbobloke

117,187 posts

289 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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And I bet the true cost of evidence gathering on that hapless lass cost a feckload more than £10k.

Edited to add - for an overview of typical police air support costs (currency conversion and update required) try here Anyone got any data closer to home?

>> Edited by turbobloke on Monday 31st January 11:12

DeltaFox

3,839 posts

261 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Streetcop said:
perhaps if they do...the BiB might have take it on the chin and pay £30..instead of dragging the process out and costing the taxpayer £10,000 !


It wouldnt have come to that if the cop who pulled her hadnt been such a dick SC.
He could simply have had a quiet word and let her on her way instead of playing Adolf.
Too much of this petty stuff going on, theres car thieves and rapists, muggers and murderers to catch instead.

minimax

11,985 posts

285 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Streetcop said:
perhaps if they do...the BiB might have take it on the chin and pay £30..instead of dragging the process out and costing the taxpayer £10,000 !


true...

moreymach

Original Poster:

1,029 posts

295 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Streetcop said:
perhaps if they do...the BiB might have take it on the chin and pay £30..instead of dragging the process out and costing the taxpayer £10,000 !


what about leading by example and not doing it in the first place if its such a heinous offence ??

Having said that I think the stunt just illustrates that a quick munch behind the wheel is no big deal.. we all do and will continue to do so just have to watch our mirrors a bit more now.

Richard C

1,685 posts

286 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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SteetCop said:
perhaps if they do...the BiB might have take it on the chin and pay £30..instead of dragging the process out and costing the taxpayer £10,000 !



What everyone is missing is that probably the cop eating the doughnut was probably entirely in control of his vehicle..just as the woman who was eating the apple was. Sorry but I don't buy into this nasty nanny crap - banning certain potential distractions that look good politically while leaving others taboo. If this nonsense is not stamped upon, pretty soon we'll all have to be like Chinese taxis where the driver sits inside a steel and perspex screen, isolated from any potential contact with or distraction from the passengers. Oh... and the Shanghai ones come complete with a tea flask and snack holder

Streetcop

5,907 posts

267 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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DeltaFox said:

Too much of this petty stuff going on, theres car thieves and rapists, muggers and murderers to catch instead.


That's why there are so few traffic coppers and so many cameras..

There are plenty of non-traffic coppers, ie CID, to deal with the thieves, rapists, muggers and murderers....

Let traffic cops deal with traffic offences...or else very soon, there won't be any at all...
Cameravans everywhere...

autismuk

1,529 posts

269 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Streetcop said:

DeltaFox said:

Too much of this petty stuff going on, theres car thieves and rapists, muggers and murderers to catch instead.



That's why there are so few traffic coppers and so many cameras..

There are plenty of non-traffic coppers, ie CID, to deal with the thieves, rapists, muggers and murderers....

Let traffic cops deal with traffic offences...or else very soon, there won't be any at all...
Cameravans everywhere...


You're approaching it at right angles Street. The problem is the spectacular contrast between the extreme pro-active policing of motorists and the non-existent proactive policing of thieves, rapists, muggers and murderers.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

267 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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autismuk said:

You're approaching it at right angles Street.

The cosine effect?

autismuk said:
The problem is the spectacular contrast between the extreme pro-active policing of motorists and the non-existent proactive policing of thieves, rapists, muggers and murderers.


How you "pro-actively" police thieves, rapists, muggers and murderers..is beyond me..

The stuff of sci-fi perhaps: www.imdb.com/title/tt0181689/

Back to the point..
thieves, rapists, muggers, murderers= dealt with by the relevant departments.

traffic related offences=dealt with by TRAFFIC/ROAD POLICE bobbies....

Pro-actively dealing with road safety, in it's various forms is very important. After all the most important role of a constable is the preservation/protection of life. Then comes the preservation/protection of property.

cliffe_mafia

1,735 posts

267 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Streetcop said:

How you "pro-actively" police thieves, rapists, muggers and murderers..is beyond me..

The stuff of sci-fi perhaps: www.imdb.com/title/tt0181689/


The Minority Report method ? Isn't that what speed cameras do?

"pro-actively" stopping a driver from driving too fast because theres a million to one chance s/he might have an accident further down the road

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

285 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Streetcop said:

How you "pro-actively" police thieves, rapists, muggers and murderers..is beyond me..

Isn't the old way of "bobbies on the beat" a method of proactive policing?

Nobody can tell how many thefts, muggings, rapes and murders are prevented by this approach, which is why it's not done any more -- it doesn't contribute towards the clear-up rate targets. However, I do believe it's what people want. We'd much rather these things didn't happen in the first place than some CC get patted on the back for improving his 16% clear-up rate.

Similarly, an increase in trafpols who are out to catch dangerous drivers before they kill someone would be welcomed by everyone. But not those out to catch perpetrators of victimless crime. Just like we're not interested in beat bobbies catching people for thought crimes. Let's get back to reality!

Mr E

23,059 posts

288 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Richard C said:

Chinese taxis where the driver sits inside a steel and perspex screen, isolated from any potential contact with or distraction from the passengers. Oh... and the Shanghai ones come complete with a tea flask and snack holder


Indeed. And the tea flask is often a used jar of instant coffee containing some very odd looking green stuff floating in cold water.

And then the cab driver falls asleep at about 2:30am, and you can't grab the wheel because there's perspex between you and him.

So you crash.

I loved Shanghai.

turbobloke

117,187 posts

289 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Streetcop said:
How you "pro-actively" police thieves, rapists, muggers and murderers..is beyond me..
Can't believe that street - just spend more taxes on BiB so your colleagues can get back to patrolling the steets day and night, as in the old black and white movies.

The government should cut all grants and beneifts to tetra sexual three toed purple skinned martian asylum seekers and spend it on high vis foot patrols - and prisons - instead. Sorted.

turbobloke

117,187 posts

289 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Peter Ward said:
Isn't the old way of "bobbies on the beat" a method of proactive policing?

Yes, didn't get as far as your post before being tempted to put finger to keyboard. Quite right Peter.

DeltaFox

3,839 posts

261 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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Streetcop said:
The cosine effect?


Now youre going off on a tangent.....


Ill get me coat.

einion yrth

19,575 posts

273 months

Monday 31st January 2005
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DeltaFox said:

Streetcop said:
The cosine effect?



Now youre going off on a tangent.....


Ill get me coat.


It's a sine of the times