Dwight Yorke gets six month driving ban
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anaonva said:
Yorke gets six month driving ban
Footballer Dwight Yorke has been banned from driving for six months after he admitted tailgating other motorists at speeds of up to 100mph.
The Birmingham City striker was caught doing 30 miles over the speed limit and driving within 10 feet of other drivers Chorley magistrates heard.
Yorke, 33, of Alderley Edge, Cheshire, admitted driving without due care and attention on Monday.
He had been caught on the M61 last May as he drove to Manchester Airport.
In the morning the court had rescinded an automatic ban against Yorke after representations from his solicitor Nick Freeman.
He had admitted breaking the speed limit and the seven points awarded against him took his points total to 13.
However after Mr Freeman's representation a fresh hearing was ordered for the afternoon.
Mrs Fish said:
anaonva said:
Yorke gets six month driving ban
Footballer Dwight Yorke has been banned from driving for six months after he admitted tailgating other motorists at speeds of up to 100mph.
The Birmingham City striker was caught doing 30 miles over the speed limit and driving within 10 feet of other drivers Chorley magistrates heard.
Yorke, 33, of Alderley Edge, Cheshire, admitted driving without due care and attention on Monday.
He had been caught on the M61 last May as he drove to Manchester Airport.
In the morning the court had rescinded an automatic ban against Yorke after representations from his solicitor Nick Freeman.
He had admitted breaking the speed limit and the seven points awarded against him took his points total to 13.
However after Mr Freeman's representation a fresh hearing was ordered for the afternoon.
An unsafe driver off the road. Good.>>>>>>>However after Mr Freeman's representation a fresh hearing was ordered for the afternoon.
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Does the report include what went on in the afternoon session Mrs Fish. i.e. Ban stands. That Nick Freeman isn't a man to mess with.....
Presume he was going on the 'hardship aspect"... on his wages. Cheee.
Footballers should be restricted to Novas...
See
www.tinyurl.com/itp7
for one of his many appearances.
DVD
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Does the report include what went on in the afternoon session Mrs Fish. i.e. Ban stands. That Nick Freeman isn't a man to mess with.....
Presume he was going on the 'hardship aspect"... on his wages. Cheee.
Footballers should be restricted to Novas...
See
www.tinyurl.com/itp7
for one of his many appearances.
DVD
Mrs Fish said:
Dwight VanDriver said:
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Does the report include what went on in the afternoon session Mrs Fish. i.e. Ban stands. That Nick Freeman isn't a man to mess with.....
Not on the BBC website it doesn't.... I just posted it after I heard it on the radio
All a bit weird - his solicitor wasn't happy with some element of the morning's procedure (when he got 7 points, taking him to 13) so asked for the case to be re-heard in front of a different set of mags PM. He got 6 points the second time, so 12 in total and therefore was still banned for 6 mths.
anaonva said:
The Birmingham City striker was caught doing 30 miles over the speed limit and driving within 10 feet of other drivers Chorley magistrates heard.
Yorke, 33, of Alderley Edge, Cheshire, admitted driving without due care and attention on Monday.
Isn't 'driving without due care and attention' a bit odd in these circumstances? Why wouldn't it be dangerous driving if he was so close to the vehicles in front?
Julian
julianc said:
anaonva said:
The Birmingham City striker was caught doing 30 miles over the speed limit and driving within 10 feet of other drivers Chorley magistrates heard.
Yorke, 33, of Alderley Edge, Cheshire, admitted driving without due care and attention on Monday.
Isn't 'driving without due care and attention' a bit odd in these circumstances? Why wouldn't it be dangerous driving if he was so close to the vehicles in front?
Julian
He was sending a text message and eating a sandwich at the time.
julianc said:
anaonva said:
The Birmingham City striker was caught doing 30 miles over the speed limit and driving within 10 feet of other drivers Chorley magistrates heard.
Yorke, 33, of Alderley Edge, Cheshire, admitted driving without due care and attention on Monday.
Isn't 'driving without due care and attention' a bit odd in these circumstances? Why wouldn't it be dangerous driving if he was so close to the vehicles in front?
Julian
That seems odd to me too, and I don't know the answer.
Driving without due care and attention is, I would have thought, something like an occasional minor error.
Tailgating at high speed is IMHO wilful malpractice, and ought to be regarded as dangerous.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Their defence was that this black Mercedes was tail gating him and he thought it was angry Blackburn fans trying to chase him (the previous day it was released in the papers about a big bust up).
The blacked out Mercedes was an undercover cop car....
That article doesn't give the whole picture, really! (Just going off what I read in the paper myself, though!).
Of course, all that could just be him trying to not get a ban!
The blacked out Mercedes was an undercover cop car....
That article doesn't give the whole picture, really! (Just going off what I read in the paper myself, though!).
Of course, all that could just be him trying to not get a ban!
I heard this last night:
Followed for 10miles by unmarked plod, doing up to 100mph, tailgating at least 5 cars in the process.
Originally charged with Dangerous Driving. This case was heard in County/Crown Court (can't remember words used), and after submissions by solicitor (mainly about being harassed by fans, including banging on car roof when turning up for training, hence D-Y thought the unmarked car was some fans following him, apparently, and was worried!), he was found not guilty!
Second charge of Without Due Care was heard...think I heard something about him admitting to that, or at least not denying that case existed (yeah, there IS a difference, but again my memory's not perfect)...and he was found guilty and given 6 points and fine, on top of his existing 6 gave him a ban.
Good! Speeding is one thing, tailgating is quite another. My first thoughts were that listening to the description of his actions, they were borderline between dangerous / without due care anyway.
Followed for 10miles by unmarked plod, doing up to 100mph, tailgating at least 5 cars in the process.
Originally charged with Dangerous Driving. This case was heard in County/Crown Court (can't remember words used), and after submissions by solicitor (mainly about being harassed by fans, including banging on car roof when turning up for training, hence D-Y thought the unmarked car was some fans following him, apparently, and was worried!), he was found not guilty!
Second charge of Without Due Care was heard...think I heard something about him admitting to that, or at least not denying that case existed (yeah, there IS a difference, but again my memory's not perfect)...and he was found guilty and given 6 points and fine, on top of his existing 6 gave him a ban.
Good! Speeding is one thing, tailgating is quite another. My first thoughts were that listening to the description of his actions, they were borderline between dangerous / without due care anyway.
Simon.
Not exactly sure at this point without further research but is it not the case that the 6 points he got for due care taking him over will be expunged because of the disqualification, leaving 6 points on his licence from previous infringements to run their course and act as a deterent to further transgressions?
DVD
>> Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Tuesday 1st February 14:58
Not exactly sure at this point without further research but is it not the case that the 6 points he got for due care taking him over will be expunged because of the disqualification, leaving 6 points on his licence from previous infringements to run their course and act as a deterent to further transgressions?
DVD
>> Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Tuesday 1st February 14:58
ca092003 said:Hang on a mo ca092003, if Mr Y was driving in a manner or at a speed that was unsafe for the conditions why did it take an unmarked police video car ten miles of tailing him to make the stop? If it took ten miles to goad him into speeding up and trying to escape from what he saw as a tailgating racist nutter by exceeding the limit and tailgating other cars, the police should be in the dock.
An unsafe driver off the road. Good.
S Works said:Footballer - foul comment - nice.
He is a total male-chicken - ban him, fine him a stupid amount and somebody please teach these primadonna footballing pricks that they are not above the law.
If he was continually driving like a turkey, got himself totted up for dwodc or dd offences, banning him would be OK. Driving at three figure speeds in the right conditions is perfectly safe however. The fact that it's illegal just shows we have laws that are intended to criminalise safe driving.
However back to Yorke, Mrs F's news snippet didn't mention the unmarked car tailing him for ten miles on the M61 before he was stopped. S Works could you or anyone hazard a guess as to why a dangerous driver should be allowed to put lives at risk for ten miles before being stopped? Waiting for a convenient moment for ten miles won't wash. That's probably two to three junctions on the M61.
The fact that he's a footballer should be irrelevant...but instead, it's drawing comments like "good!". Yesterday, I drove south out of Frankfurt airport on the A5 and I did 135mph. Ca124390234....does that make me an unsafe driver? Your answer, if true to your form, should be that if it was done in the right circumstances then absolutely fine. WE DO NOT KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES, and therefore CANNOT comment on his safety as a driver. That was a, quite frankly, naive comment from you.
3 figure speeds!? Well...I have two points to that. The first is that if most of the other traffic was not doing these 3 figure speeds...well then neither could he...SUGGESTING that conditions were good and traffic flowing wonderfully. Equally, if his driving was unsafe (as Turbobloke said above), then the unmarked car would have pulled him over along time in advance. How would it sound, after Mr Yorke's fatal crash "ah yes, guv, saw he was driving unsafely but thought we'd see how it turned out".. Urmmm no, it doesn't happen like that.
So what's my point? My point is that many have jumped to an ill-informed conclusion as to what happened, and his status as a footballer means you love it. If it happened to someone on PH, you can imagine the outcry of "cops trying to get money" etc. etc. All from the same people, too!
Me, I admit I'm jealous of footballers. Look at their lifestyle...£30k a week, cars we all dream of, a few hours of training a day, and they look good in shorts. Doesn't mean I love it when they get banned from driving, though, regardless of their taste in chrome wheels.
3 figure speeds!? Well...I have two points to that. The first is that if most of the other traffic was not doing these 3 figure speeds...well then neither could he...SUGGESTING that conditions were good and traffic flowing wonderfully. Equally, if his driving was unsafe (as Turbobloke said above), then the unmarked car would have pulled him over along time in advance. How would it sound, after Mr Yorke's fatal crash "ah yes, guv, saw he was driving unsafely but thought we'd see how it turned out".. Urmmm no, it doesn't happen like that.
So what's my point? My point is that many have jumped to an ill-informed conclusion as to what happened, and his status as a footballer means you love it. If it happened to someone on PH, you can imagine the outcry of "cops trying to get money" etc. etc. All from the same people, too!
Me, I admit I'm jealous of footballers. Look at their lifestyle...£30k a week, cars we all dream of, a few hours of training a day, and they look good in shorts. Doesn't mean I love it when they get banned from driving, though, regardless of their taste in chrome wheels.
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