Trigger's Broom? Your views on this 993 RS??

Trigger's Broom? Your views on this 993 RS??

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robm3

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4,930 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Interesting 993 RS for sale in Oz, BUT it's been re-bodied with chassis number carried across.

To my mind the original shell and engine block are critical to call a car 'genuine'. Most other parts replaceable with no issue on value.

What's your views on this?

Here's the ad:

http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Porsche-...


robm3

Original Poster:

4,930 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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So in summary, not the original shell, nor the correct engine, nor the bits attached...

As original as this then:



Steve Rance

5,448 posts

232 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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The car was orinally probably based on a C2 as only the Supercup cars left the factory as purpose built NA cars. The Carrera cup series cars - certainly in the Uk - cars were based on C2's which were modified within the rules of the championship at the time. A few of these cars became available on the market when the 996GT3 cup series was launched. This car may well have started life as a Carrera cup car hence the 3.6 engine. The chassis will not be a motorsport chasis as it is RHD. Also probably not an RS shell as it would have been more cost effective to prep a standard C2 shell for motorsport which the car apprears to be rebuit for. This being the case, I find it a little odd that a fully welded cage was not installed during the prep as it would have been a much better option. motorsport shells were LHD and had welded Matter cages ( as mentioned earlier ).

To convert a C2 shell to RS Clubsport spec is a relatively big/Very expensive job and requires a lot of structural and detail changes (both Jackal and I have personal experience having built recreations ourselves). Many of the changes would have a minimal or nil effect on outright pace and since the car apprears to have spent much of it's time racing, one can make a reasonable assumption that these modifications have not been done.

The chasis number is a bit of a conundrum. If the car was genuine, it would have had a 3.8 engine. In which case, the numbers cannot match.

In reality, I suspect that this car is a race car with an interesting history which at sometime has had a re-shell. The track spec will be decent and providing that it is mechanically sound it will command a reasonable value because of it's provenance. If - when the time comes - it gets FIA papers, it's value will increase considerably. With such a big detail error as a bolt in cage and a 3.6 engine, I cannot imagine that it is an otherwise nut and bolt perfect representation of a Clubsport and the seller may cause themselves a few problems if it is sold as one. A caveat would be, if the seller has made a mistake and the engine was in fact a 3.8 which matched the chasis number. Even then, the cage is a problem

NineMeister

1,146 posts

259 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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I remember having a conversation with an Australian customer about their rhd 993RS Clubsports during which he told me that the cars had to be imported with a bolt-in cage to get around Aussie import legislation. If this is the case the roll cage design may not be so much of an issue.

Steve Rance

5,448 posts

232 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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How the devil are you Old Chap!?

P50

1,034 posts

164 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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robm3 said:
So in summary, not the original shell, nor the correct engine, nor the bits attached...

As original as this then:


Oh dear!